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Would it be above Riley to adopt an option attack?
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:03 pm
His offense is based mostly around the running game, contrary to popular belief. I personally think if Riley tweaked his offense to a more high powered army or navy approach, CFB would have no answer for it given the talent level year in and year out at Oklahoma.
Would be cool to see. Also, SEC related cause Jalen Hurts.
Would be cool to see. Also, SEC related cause Jalen Hurts.
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:04 pm to FourThreeForty
Why the frick would he run the option? Teams like ga tech and army run the option because they are woefully outmatched talent-wise and have to do something so try to negate it. OU is quite talented and has stud WRs out the arse, not to mention the last 2 heisman winners that won it by, ya know...throwing the ball.
OU going to the option makes less than zero sense.
OU going to the option makes less than zero sense.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:07 pm to FourThreeForty
I want to say something about your post really bad but I am gonna keep it to myself and just say: you can't be serious...
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:14 pm to WG_Dawg
Makes all the sense in the world to me.
Not saying 100% option, but a decent portion of the playbook. Oklahoma consistently loses in the big time cause of TOP, ineptitude on offense when facing a good pass defense and usually depending on one person (typically a heisman winner) to win the game by themselves.
All this Heisman winner high flying shite has got them nothing of relevance other than conference dominance over the past 10 years.
Not saying 100% option, but a decent portion of the playbook. Oklahoma consistently loses in the big time cause of TOP, ineptitude on offense when facing a good pass defense and usually depending on one person (typically a heisman winner) to win the game by themselves.
All this Heisman winner high flying shite has got them nothing of relevance other than conference dominance over the past 10 years.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:22 pm to FourThreeForty
The RPO is an evolved triple option, so he does run a modern option attack
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:23 pm to WG_Dawg
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Teams like ga tech and army run the option because they are woefully outmatched talent-wise and have to do something so try to negate it.
That is not true. Before GT ran the option Chan Gailey put that work on Clemson, Miami and Auburn with this guy(out-matched talent)
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:31 pm to FourThreeForty
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His offense is based mostly around the running game, contrary to popular belief. I personally think if Riley tweaked his offense to a more high powered army or navy approach, CFB would have no answer for it given the talent level year in and year out at Oklahoma.
did you watch oklahoma this year or last year?
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:32 pm to WG_Dawg
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Why the frick would he run the option? Teams like ga tech and army run the option because they are woefully outmatched talent-wise and have to do something so try to negate it. OU is quite talented and has stud WRs out the arse, not to mention the last 2 heisman winners that won it by, ya know...throwing the ball.
OU going to the option makes less than zero sense.
Yep...you can't play the system like Nebraska did back in the old days of partial-qualifiers...they would load up on big, stupid corn-fed linemen, and run the option down your throat.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:33 pm to FourThreeForty
I'm going to say yes and no.
Adding in some option elements might not be a bad idea. If Oklahoma knows it can just line up and run over folks then by all means, run some wishbone... the triple option attack designed for teams with big brassy balls. Its more of a power running scheme at this point then anything else.
The problem is that the strength of Oklahoma is their passing attack while the strength of the modern triple option is those annoying 3-4 yard gains on every down they crank out.
Now if a team can't stop the option at all, like Houston against Army, then you see the option rolling up God like numbers. But usually you are looking at steady but low gains. Its why Army has won some games in recent years without attempting a pass.
A high octane passing attack, on the other hand, relies on throwing it a lot (with some runs mixed in to take advantage of folks expecting the pass) because you might get one or two incomplete passes every series of downs but who cares if the third one goes for 20 yards?
Do I expect Oklahoma will run quite a bit of read option with Hurts? You betcha. But I doubt they will run under the center midline options. Hurts knows diddly doo da about running the midline for one thing and for another with all that WR talent do you really want them to become, as Army WRs proudly proclaim themselves to be, wide blockers?
If you are going to line up, go full Wishbone, and tell people "hey diddle diddle, here it comes up the middle" then by all means go for it. But you need a team built to just line up and bully people. That is not what Oklahoma is built for.
Adding in some option elements might not be a bad idea. If Oklahoma knows it can just line up and run over folks then by all means, run some wishbone... the triple option attack designed for teams with big brassy balls. Its more of a power running scheme at this point then anything else.
The problem is that the strength of Oklahoma is their passing attack while the strength of the modern triple option is those annoying 3-4 yard gains on every down they crank out.
Now if a team can't stop the option at all, like Houston against Army, then you see the option rolling up God like numbers. But usually you are looking at steady but low gains. Its why Army has won some games in recent years without attempting a pass.
A high octane passing attack, on the other hand, relies on throwing it a lot (with some runs mixed in to take advantage of folks expecting the pass) because you might get one or two incomplete passes every series of downs but who cares if the third one goes for 20 yards?
Do I expect Oklahoma will run quite a bit of read option with Hurts? You betcha. But I doubt they will run under the center midline options. Hurts knows diddly doo da about running the midline for one thing and for another with all that WR talent do you really want them to become, as Army WRs proudly proclaim themselves to be, wide blockers?
If you are going to line up, go full Wishbone, and tell people "hey diddle diddle, here it comes up the middle" then by all means go for it. But you need a team built to just line up and bully people. That is not what Oklahoma is built for.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 1:07 pm to Arksulli
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The problem is that the strength of Oklahoma is their passing attack
The strength of Oklahoma is the GT counter-read power running game.
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But you need a team built to just line up and bully people. That is not what Oklahoma is built for.
That is precisely what Oklahoma is "built for".
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/17/19 at 3:25 pm to FourThreeForty
Not happening. RPO off counters, quick slant, two read passing game, and designed QB counters. Depending on Hurts evolution they'll just run the same spread they've had so much success using with a few more designed QB runs.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 3:34 pm to FourThreeForty
Do people really not know that OU is a run first team that just happens to be ridiculously dangerous all over the field? Riley has ran the ball more than passing since he got to OU with the RBs they have every year. The fact that OU has such good WRs and QBs just seems to make people think they have to be a passing team. Not the case.
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 1/17/19 at 3:45 pm to Boomer00
They have no idea what they're talking about at all. They think everybody in the BIG XII is like Texas Tech. It's adorable.
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/17/19 at 4:53 pm to FourThreeForty
The triple option won’t beat teams disciplined in the trenches. The option most run is more than enough with a mobile Qb. His issue is defense not offense
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