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re: Check in if your team has an overall winning record vs Clemson in football
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:40 pm to WildcatMike
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:40 pm to WildcatMike
Alabama is 14-4.
This is after an 0-3 start.
This is after an 0-3 start.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:42 pm to KSGamecock
what kind of overall history do texas am and va tech have in football?
i bet they both also improved after moving away from being primarily a military school.
i bet they both also improved after moving away from being primarily a military school.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:42 pm to East Coast Band
so the one loss after the 0-3 start was with a natty on the line.
lol
i'll take 4-14 and a natty against any school. :)
lol
i'll take 4-14 and a natty against any school. :)
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:44 pm to Tillman
There you go again, Clemson was never primarily a military school. If you wanted to commission as an officer you went to the Citadel. If you wanted to be a farmer, or a shop foreman, or an engineer you went to Clemson. It is still that way to a large degree.
TAMU and VT are SMCs today, Clemson is not, that kind of says something.
TAMU and VT are SMCs today, Clemson is not, that kind of says something.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:51 pm to KSGamecock
Only Texas A&M and Army provided more Army officers for World War II than Clemson.
n 1943, the Clemson football team lost its entire junior and senior class to World War II as players volunteered to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces. The Tigers went 2-6 that season as head coach Frank Howard could barely field a team.
When Clemson opened the season that year against Presbyterian College, nine freshmen started at the 11 positions in a 13-12 loss. That’s the last time PC beat the Tigers on the gridiron.
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that doesn't sound like a civilian school to me. lol
n 1943, the Clemson football team lost its entire junior and senior class to World War II as players volunteered to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces. The Tigers went 2-6 that season as head coach Frank Howard could barely field a team.
When Clemson opened the season that year against Presbyterian College, nine freshmen started at the 11 positions in a 13-12 loss. That’s the last time PC beat the Tigers on the gridiron.
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that doesn't sound like a civilian school to me. lol
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:53 pm to Tillman
Nice factoid but that doesn't make you the Citadel. As I've said before, you were a farm school with a robust reserve commissioning program, you were not a military college a la the Citadel, Norwich, VMI.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:54 pm to KSGamecock
so why does everythign I read about Clemson's history specifically call it a military college until 1955....
it had more officers in WW2 than the Citadel. the most in the country after Army and texas am. lol
it had more officers in WW2 than the Citadel. the most in the country after Army and texas am. lol
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:58 pm to East Coast Band
Apparently we're 2-1 with the one probably deserving an asterisk because Chavis.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:00 pm to WildcatMike
Had to look it up, but Ole Miss leads them 2-0 lol
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:01 pm to OBReb6
while SEC schools were playing football,
Clemson was defending this country from the Nazis.
lol
i guess football just meant more in the SEC even during WW2. lol
Clemson was defending this country from the Nazis.
lol
i guess football just meant more in the SEC even during WW2. lol
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:02 pm to Tillman
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so why does everythign I read about Clemson's history specifically call it a military college until 1955....
Because you're reading Clemson's wiki and their website without a wider perspective of colleges at the time, the evolution of education in America, and the state of South Carolina. Clemson claims that title because they had a mandatory ROTC program until 1955 which was not uncommon. Why they choose to label themselves that probably has something to do with how Clemson wants to see itself, ask them.
I will and have granted you that it had a robust program but comparing it to the Citadel is silly and denies Clemson's own history and Ben Tillman's vision. He wanted an Ag school, not a Military College.
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it had more officers in WW2 than the Citadel. the most in the country after Army and texas am. lol
Those were reserve officers. There was a difference between the commissions at the time, there still is now but it's slight and changed in the 90's. You did not go to Clemson to become an Officer, you went to the Citadel.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:03 pm to KSGamecock
Tillman isn't the founder of Clemson. lol
there's a reason it is called Clemson and not Tillman.
there's a reason it is called Clemson and not Tillman.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:03 pm to Tillman
When did I say that he was?
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:04 pm to KSGamecock
you are the only person I've talked to that has claimed Clemson was not a military college. lol
There are 5 military college in this country in addition to CItadel....two of which are texas am and Va Tech.
you've already said Clemson was like texas am and va tech. the only difference is Clemson decided to go 100 percent civilian and texas am and va tech did not.
There are 5 military college in this country in addition to CItadel....two of which are texas am and Va Tech.
you've already said Clemson was like texas am and va tech. the only difference is Clemson decided to go 100 percent civilian and texas am and va tech did not.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:06 pm to Tillman
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you are the only person I've talked to that has claimed Clemson was not a military college.
Read our back and forth in this thread. My issue with you is that you claimed it was a Citadel type Military College. It was not and never has been.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:10 pm to KSGamecock
lol, the point was never about what majors it offered. you had to be a cadet to attend Clemson , same as Citadel.
has there ever been a college where studnets had to be cadets that had a lot of success in sports? that's my point. your average kid doesn't want to go to a military college.
has there ever been a college where studnets had to be cadets that had a lot of success in sports? that's my point. your average kid doesn't want to go to a military college.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:13 pm to WildcatMike
State is 1-1-1 against clemson. So we don’t have a losing record
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