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Posted on 10/30/18 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 10/30/18 at 7:50 pm
I get people not liking Barry Odom. I see positives in what he’s done and I think we all agree there are negatives. The reason I lost those three schools is because they’re very similar to mizzou and all three have had short leashes on coaches at one point or another and have cut ties and all three have found themselves in precarious positions to say the least. My fear is people are so eager for change they end up creating a turnstile for coaches and the program becomes an embarrassment.
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Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:01 pm to Mizsioux
Just wait until the season is over then evaluate him as a coach.
He’s young enough as a coach that if the teams sticks together and improves you bring him back. If they quit on him move on.
He’s young enough as a coach that if the teams sticks together and improves you bring him back. If they quit on him move on.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:04 pm to Mizsioux
Those three schools will keep looking. Nebraska and Arkansas might have found their guy. You cannot find the right guy unless you keep trying. We took a gamble on a "True son" that we could get cheap, hoping he could learn on the job.
It has not worked, time to move on. To quote Uncle Dub: "Life is like a tire iron, son. It's mighty hard, so it feels mighty good when you stop beating yourself upside the head with it."
It has not worked, time to move on. To quote Uncle Dub: "Life is like a tire iron, son. It's mighty hard, so it feels mighty good when you stop beating yourself upside the head with it."
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:06 pm to Mizsioux
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I see positives in what he’s done
Feel free to list those out
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:07 pm to TigerTalker16
We almost beat Kentucky once.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:12 pm to Mizsioux
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I get people not liking Barry Odom. I see positives in what he’s done and I think we all agree there are negatives. The reason I lost those three schools is because they’re very similar to mizzou and all three have had short leashes on coaches at one point or another and have cut ties and all three have found themselves in precarious positions to say the least. My fear is people are so eager for change they end up creating a turnstile for coaches and the program becomes an embarrassment.
Do not forget the first 2 years with the protest and other problems that was hurting Missouri. Right now my fear is Missouri fans are going to kill the football program by scaring away recruits and coaches by their bad behavior. That alone can kill the football program. Fans got to be careful and support the team and if Odom does well the rest of the year, he should get another year but the fans need to be going to the games and support the team. Negative vibes will scare away recruits and coaches as well. Missouri is not LSU, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee that have the money and histories of a powerhouse in football.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:19 pm to Drydock
It’s amazing that 4-4 with 2 losses on the final play of the game means a guy can’t coach.
I think he ends up being a very successful P5 coach, just not at Mizzou. Too much of the fan base turned on him after his first season.
I think he ends up being a very successful P5 coach, just not at Mizzou. Too much of the fan base turned on him after his first season.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:20 pm to Mizsioux
Also, Arkansas isn't in as bad shape as you think they are. Unlike us, they're getting better each week. Chad Morris is also killing it in recruiting. Odom wouldn't sniff half the talent their picking up this recruiting season because well, he sucks.
BUT FIRST YEAR COACHES CANT CROOT AT A MIDDLE OF THE PACK SCHOOL, RIGHT GUYS?
In recruiting, Odom got 1 out of the top 9 players in Missouri last year and one the field, he continues to be abysmal against any teams with a pulse, failing to close out games. Mizzou fans have gotten zero wins to be proud of and people aren't going to the games anymore now. Pathetic.
The only SEC school that should be seriously concerned about it's future in football is us. We fricked up the most important hire in Mizzou football history, and now Pinkel's hard work to put this program on the map is fading away. It's depressing. We frick up this next hire,and we're on our way back to the 80's.
BUT FIRST YEAR COACHES CANT CROOT AT A MIDDLE OF THE PACK SCHOOL, RIGHT GUYS?
In recruiting, Odom got 1 out of the top 9 players in Missouri last year and one the field, he continues to be abysmal against any teams with a pulse, failing to close out games. Mizzou fans have gotten zero wins to be proud of and people aren't going to the games anymore now. Pathetic.
The only SEC school that should be seriously concerned about it's future in football is us. We fricked up the most important hire in Mizzou football history, and now Pinkel's hard work to put this program on the map is fading away. It's depressing. We frick up this next hire,and we're on our way back to the 80's.
This post was edited on 10/31/18 at 11:04 am
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:31 pm to TigerTalker16
Chad Morris best season as a coach is 7 wins, and that was at a mid major. I think he will be a good coach, but wouldn’t say that he’s better than Odom.
Mizzou also has a roster coming back next season that should be a bowl team at minimum. Get a good grad transfer QB and next season should be better than this season.
Mizzou also has a roster coming back next season that should be a bowl team at minimum. Get a good grad transfer QB and next season should be better than this season.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:31 pm to TigerTalker16
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Feel free to list those out
He's found a fair amount of diamond in the rough type players.
His teams don't quit.
He's actually a pretty decent DC, as long as he isn't allowed to hire the DB coach. I wonder if he'd stay on.
He's also not ready, in multiple ways, to be HC at an SEC school.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:33 pm to TrueLefty
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Do not forget the first 2 years with the protest and other problems that was hurting Missouri
Honest question. Why do certain individuals think the protest is the reason we have issues from a football standpoint?
This is a collegiate landscape where Ole Miss had members of the KKK protest a song on campus and within 6 months landed a top 5 recruiting class. A landscape where a video of an OU fraternity singing about hanging went viral and yet they can recruit top tier Missouri talent.
You can side one or another on the issue, but the reality is that racial issues which bubble up to the national scene and impact perception are prevelant across college campuses.
How is it that it only hurts when it happens at Mizzou?
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:40 pm to countrygrammar
It’s used against Mizzou in recruiting. Not just in football. Each year removed from the protest its weaker
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:49 pm to countrygrammar
This board befuddles me. Arkansas has been blitzed by north Texas and just gave up 45 points to an inept Vanderbilt offense. An ole miss comparison about recruiting. It’s no secret how how they got those recruits. Someone mentioned how mississippi state is light years ahead of us and they got blasted by Kentucky. This board has a serious sliding scale for Odom. This board wants to fire a guy who hasn’t even seen his first class through yet. I think by the end of next year you’ll be making a good decision. Whether it’s firing him or not. I don’t know if he is the guy but it takes time to build a college football program. I’m a big believer in giving someone 4 years if they haven’t proven to be totally inept and for me Odom hasn’t crossed that line yet. He has a chance to improve the win total in every year since his first.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:52 pm to wubilli
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It’s amazing that 4-4 with 2 losses on the final play of the game means a guy can’t coach.
It’s not 4-4.
It’s 15-18.
It’s 2 conference road wins against Arkansas and Vanderbilt in 2.5 years.
It’s 0 wins against a good team.
It’s finishing no higher than 12th out of 14 teams in recruiting.
It’s defenses ranked around the bottom 3rd of the FBS.
It’s no demonstration of understanding what it takes to win.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:54 pm to Mizsioux
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He has a chance to improve the win total in every year since his first.
He will not improve on his win total this year from last. Book it.
He may have a record next year equal to his first year.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 8:56 pm to Mizsioux
Well then just kill the football program then. Because if you're not striving for better then what's the point. I love how people clamor for mediocrity out of fear. What if Mizzou finds a good coach like UCF, USF, Iowa State, Purdue, Syracuse, Colorado, Penn State. Why is the assumption that Sterk can't find someone to turn things around. The Basketball program was in dire straits before Cuonzo, would anyone go back to KA for the comfort of mediocrity.
Also BO is hurting the athletic department with attendance numbers which hurts revenue. Mizzou football is not a Government Welfare Program. He freely applied for the job knowing the responsibilities and expectations. If he can't field a team that can compete in the SEC, it is Strrks responsibility to find a coach that can.
Also BO is hurting the athletic department with attendance numbers which hurts revenue. Mizzou football is not a Government Welfare Program. He freely applied for the job knowing the responsibilities and expectations. If he can't field a team that can compete in the SEC, it is Strrks responsibility to find a coach that can.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:08 pm to surgicalvenom
It’s taken Purdue and Iowa State a lot of tries to find these guys. Not to mention Odom beat Brohm and Brohm has a sweet eastern Michigan loss on the resume this year.Colorado just lost to Oregon State absolutely atrocious loss. I just heard a bookmaker say USF is the worst undefeated team he’s ever seen and they are probably somewhere in the 60s (they barely beat Illinois) and our boy heupel barely beat a Memphis team Missouri made look inadequate. Also Syracuse is ranked for the first time in like 20 years. Doesn’t scream they’ve got the hiring process down and Penn State isnt exactly setting the world on fire this year with an absolute stud at QB. They’re superior head coach tried a trap up the middle on 4th and 6 to lose the game. This board would have a coronary if odom did that.
This post was edited on 10/30/18 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:27 pm to the808bass
quote:That alone is a fireable offense right there. He could get a pass if his team played smart, disciplined football, or atleast showed signs of steady improvement over 3 years. Mizzou should never lose 3 straight games to a basketball school, it's ridiculous.
We almost beat Kentucky once.
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:36 pm to Mizsioux
No one likes a coaching carousel. But no one likes piss poor coaching either. And not a single first down in an entire half is on the staff.
BTW I'm still trying to think of the positives. That he was able to fill out recruiting classes?
BTW I'm still trying to think of the positives. That he was able to fill out recruiting classes?
Posted on 10/30/18 at 9:43 pm to TrueLefty
If they fire BO and give all of the fans an xbox controller and let us call the plays from our seats then I will buy a ticket this year. Short of that, it is BO's job to put together a good team that will generate an enthusiastic fanbase. It is not the job of the fanbase to make the team or BO better.
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