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re: Bama fans, how do you explain/justify the discrepancies in officiating/punishments?

Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:37 pm to
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Ok, the ref thought it was blatant fighting

How else can you interpret the action?
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don't you guys always talk about how it's "the timing" of the penalties?

Why are you suddenly making shite up? I don't always talk about timing of penalties.
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Wouldn't this be a great time to hit Bama with one of those meaningless penalties

So that's how you justify this, fighting is now a meaningless penalty to Alabama fans?
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I'm having difficulty keeping up with which version of the conspiracy theory fits your narrative best

Make another one up. You seem to have a decent imagination.

LSU fans complain about having a player ejected over a bad call, and Alabama fans want to lecture us on using proper technique to not get DQ'd.




Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21699 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:40 pm to
You're going to have to stop moving the goal posts. What is your question? It's easy to twist out of arguments if we don't define the argument.



Posted by IHateOrange
Gadsden
Member since Jan 2007
635 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:42 pm to
LSU fans that bring this up are whiny nut jobs. That’s how I explain your infatuation with excuses as to why Bama repetitively smacks that arse
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:45 pm to
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No, I'm betting Alabama fans won't be thinking it's funny when their QB is getting beat the frick up while he's laying on the ground.
Let me guess; you're gonna roll over, wipe the Vaseline off and ask whichever LSU defender you gave it up to if he could possibly please, please throw a couple punches in the pile?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:46 pm to
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Throughout this whole debacle, I have not seen ONE bama fan try to explain the blatant discrepancies between how the SEC handled Devin White versus how they handled BOTH notable bama incidents (their UFC linebacker and totally obvious targeting on the Tennessee QB)

Why is that? Why do y’all sit there with your fingers in their ears yet call LSU fans crazy for being mad about the shite with White... it’s absolutely insane

The only thing the majority of you guys say now is that LSU fans are conspiracy theorists and that we are crazy, and need to stop crying, blah blah blah.. but yet you avoid the question completely. WHY?

So, bama fans, how do you explain the difference in discipline with these incidents?


Its a pointless, circular, internet argument that has been going round and round for years.
Posted by DocYates
Member since Oct 2015
616 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:50 pm to
"Throughout this whole debacle, I have not seen ONE bama fan try to explain the blatant discrepancies between how the SEC handled Devin White versus how they handled BOTH notable bama incidents (their UFC linebacker and totally obvious targeting on the Tennessee QB)

Why is that? Why do y’all sit there with your fingers in their ears yet call LSU fans crazy for being mad about the shite with White... it’s absolutely insane

The only thing the majority of you guys say now is that LSU fans are conspiracy theorists and that we are crazy, and need to stop crying, blah blah blah.. but yet you avoid the question completely. WHY?

So, bama fans, how do you explain the difference in discipline with these incidents?"

I have no explanation. It is like watching a car wreck, when you know you have done the same darn thing. It happens. Devin White caught a bad break. It wasn't me that made the call. I was watching the game and thought it was no worse than the hit on the Tennessee QB, BUT it was not my call to make. It was made by TWO different refs. As far as the issue with the punches thrown in the MO game, I am not sure why he was not flagged for it, unless they just didn't see it, which may have been the case. BUT the player ending up sitting out half of the TN game for it, so in the end the punishment was the same. What does it matter from whom the punishment comes?
If White gets to play or not, that is between the SEC, NCAA and LSU, it is not my business and as far as I know there was no involvement by BAMA in the situation. Am much credit as I would give the REC, they don't have that kind of pull, they are not the Illuminati, Mafia, nor the Men in Black. I have been to their meetings and most of them are a bunch of old impotent drunks who throw money to hear some coach tell them things they could probably hear on Sportscenter. They certainly don't have the intellect nor the planning to pull off a mastery stunt like what is proposed.
In about 10 days the question will be answered as it always is the first week of November. I am not going to drink the bong water between now and then, and the last time I looked I did not see any black helicopters over Tiger Stadium or Bryant Denny. I just want to see a good game with minimal controversy.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85838 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:50 pm to
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totally obvious targeting


Neither White nor Wilson were targeting. Both made incidental contact with the player's facemask. One was called and "reviewed" incorrectly.

There are instances of Wilson targeting. Speedy Noil hit comes to mind. The hit in the TN game was bad because he lowered his the crown of his helmet like he often does, but struck the shoulder.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:52 pm to
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You're going to have to stop moving the goal posts.

I'm not moving any goal posts.
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What is your question?

I'm not asking any questions.
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It's easy to twist out of arguments

I'm not twisting out of an argument, because I'm not making an argument.

I have a point that is this:

LSU will be giving Tua the unsportsmanlike conduct that Alabama has shown everybody how to do.



What a fine example Alabama sets. That's the mark of a champion, right there.

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:52 pm to
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So, bama fans, how do you explain the difference in discipline with these incidents?

Because they are completely different incidents.

Wilson delivered a legal hit and made sure he delivered it below the neck.

White delivered a softer hit, but kept his head at the same level as the QB and unfortunately let the QB get too close to his body, allowing direct contact between the helmets. Soft foul, but checks enough boxes for targeting.

Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10269 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:53 pm to
Now that this has been majorly exposed, the refs have been put on notice, surely the refs will be on their best behavior. You would think.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:54 pm to
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e hit in the TN game was bad because he lowered his the crown of his helmet
Wrong
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21699 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:57 pm to
Oh, ok, just dumb trolling.

Carry on. You have a week and a half.

Posted by CaptainKirk80
Richmond, Virginia
Member since Mar 2015
163 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:58 pm to
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We know you're a moron, but I'll just leave this here anyway.

Holding calls missed.
Posted by CaptainKirk80
Richmond, Virginia
Member since Mar 2015
163 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:00 pm to
:sigh:
Posted by CaptainKirk80
Richmond, Virginia
Member since Mar 2015
163 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:05 pm to
Explain this.

LINK
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:09 pm to
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Explain this

The closest official was obstructed, the other was 20 yards away and said he wasn't sure (the default in that case is to rule it incomplete), the replay official had an old monitor (this actually caused most stadiums to upgrade their official replay monitor).

Because the replay official couldn't tell if he had possession inbounds, the only option he had was to say the play stands, not confirmed, but stands, which is what the head official said after the review.
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 1:12 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:10 pm to
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unless they just didn't see it, which may have been the case.

They must have seen something, because they called unsportsmanlike conduct on Davis. Did he do something else on the play that was unsportsmanlike that they could have seen and therefore called?
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What does it matter from whom the punishment comes?

You don't seem to understand that you would NEVER be saying that if the tables were turned and it was your player getting the shite beat out of him. But an Alabama fan suggesting the offending party (as long as it's Alabama) should be responsible for meting out justice is par for the course.

You actually seem like a decent person, but the arrogance of some of your cohorts, lecturing other fans on the proper techniques for playing defense, when Davis is seen clearly throwing punches at a defenseless player, is just a bit too much for most people.

The fact is too that Florida players were seen twice in the LSU game throwing punches, but were only called for it once, and then just unsportsmanlike conduct. Then a bad call goes against LSU, is reviewed and upheld, and that player gets ejected. That's just fricked up shite from an LSU fan's perspective.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:15 pm to
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You actually seem like a decent person
And you keep telling everyone how you want your team to throw punches at our QB

Get your shite together
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
2149 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:20 pm to
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They must have seen something, because they called unsportsmanlike conduct on Davis. Did he do something else on the play that was unsportsmanlike that they could have seen and therefore called?


The penalty was called for the knee in the back. I didn't see the punches nor did the tv announcers until they replayed it. Maybe just maybe the refs didn't see the punches but saw the knee to the back. It is not a reviewable play.

Coach Saban took action to be proactive. Didn't need to wait for the SEC to say or do anything about it.

Would you have felt better if Saban ignored the punches and the SEC office handed down the first have penalty?
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