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Disgruntled fan bases proclaim Les Miles could save their program, but "Is Les More?"

Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:21 pm
Posted by ThePeoplesDawg
Arlington, VA
Member since Jan 2018
6 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:21 pm
The season is young, but the annual tradition of calling for head coaching changes has already begun. I see lots of commenters speculating about saviors for their programs, and no name comes up more than Les Miles. Even though most references to The Mad Hatter seem a bit tongue in cheek, I wondered if I could quantify Miles’ potential impact on a program. Really, is Les more?

TL;DR: I’m not really sure. The data is a bit unclear, and that in itself should make fan bases hesitate. It appears Les would improve your recruiting, but that the talent might not translate into wins.

Gif of analysis (you can pause it in the bottom left corner if it's too fast to read): https://i.imgur.com/NyxQ9Hb.gifv

Tableau dashboard of analysis (so you can explore the data at your own pace): https://public.tableau.com/profile/thepeoplesbard#!/vizhome/LesIsMore/IsLesMore?publish=yes

Caveat::
This analysis presumes that head coaches operate in a vacuum, which is of course absurd. Strength of schedule, bad referees, QB hangnails, etc., etc. all influence any coach’s overall success. But I’m comfortable sharing my results because I’m a shitposter and also because it’s a healthy thought exercise to analyze the data you do have access to. Anyway, none of these factors outside of a coach's control seem to stop anyone else here from judging them.

Methodology:
In my mind, coaches are best judged by their wins and their recruitment. So I counted Miles' wins and found his recruitment ranking (247 Sports) for every year he was a head coach. To avoid analyzing him in a vacuum, I also considered the success of the coaches that followed and preceeded him.

Analysis:
--Over Miles' 15 seasons as a head coach, he averaged 9.3 wins a season and the 13th best recruiting class. That seems good!
--Looking at trend lines, Miles appears to have improved as a winner and a recruiter over those 15 years. That also seems good!
--However, drawing separate lines for each coaching stint shows a winning down trend at LSU. Hmmm. His inability to cash in on the talent he recruited--although undeniably great--is often cited as the major factor for his departure.
--Comparing Miles to other coaches' at these programs, the case for him becomes less compelling, although that is partly driven by the high quality of the coach Miles followed and preceeded. At Oklahoma State, it appears Mike Gundy has on average been a lesser recruiter than Miles, and yet he has averaged more wins. Miles and Saban's tenures at LSU appear to be a bit of a wash, and it's too soon to say on Orgeron.

Results:
"Is Les more?" is a relative question. More than what? Each fan base would need to independently assess if Miles is more than what they have now. But I think my work shows Miles isn't an obvious slam dunk. On the face of it, he seems to recruit with the best of them...but that doesn't mean he'll win.

This analysis was conducted under the auspices of https://twitter.com/ESPMisery/status/1039677902361645056, which is committed to telling the stories of losers.

Originally posted on reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/9f32cm/ive_noticed_disgruntled_fan_bases_proclaiming_les/
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:28 pm to
Les is most definitely less
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21091 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:30 pm to
les is moar
Posted by JackTraven
Maryland
Member since Aug 2016
6487 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:30 pm to
25 pages...
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9907 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:30 pm to
I quit reading pretty early. No funny no care
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46544 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:02 pm to
You forget the most important part. Les has no interest in coaching. It seems as if he tanked the interviews on purpose.

He is making fat cash and living the dream.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65925 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:08 pm to
My mother went to high school with les. Says he ways a retard. I have held that opinion throughout his career. At least he was "our" dumbass for a long time

He won because of talent. Not scheme
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 9:09 pm
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28454 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

but that the talent might not translate into wins.





Les could win a lot of games at a lot of schools. And probably leave the program in solid shape when he retires in a few short years. But don't expect him to beat the Dark Lord of the South.
Posted by martiallaw
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
1458 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:04 pm to
He would be a great hire at the right school. If a school like a Kasnas or North Carolina hired him it would bring a lot of buzz and positive attention to the program. I would think recruiting would go up as he is still very recognizable and was always very good at recruiting.

Texas of course would never do it and they would have been laughed at if they would have hired Miles over Herman, but I think they would have been better off with Miles. Texas recruiting would have been through the roof and Texas needed to get more physical. That has been their consistent issue over the past 8 years. A Miles coached team will always play physical and with maximum effort. Of course we also know some of his drawbacks.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55686 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:15 pm to
No one is reading all that!!!
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:16 pm to
All smiles with Miles
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18657 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Les is most definitely less


Well His name is Les(S). So that does seem about right.
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