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Arky fans..seriously, where did it go wrong with Bielema?

Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:54 pm
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10238 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:54 pm
He went from 0-8 to 2-6 to 5-3 in the league his first 3 years. Now, as tough as the SEC is I doubted he would take that next step, but I figured he’d be able to sustain that 5-3/4-4 level by recruiting those huge linemen and building a brand around physical play.

When we played y’all in 2014/2015 and had to stop your NFL RB’s running behind 375 lb linemen in November, I was like “well this is gonna be a huge pain in the arse every year”. And then it all went south. What happened?
Posted by Network
Member since Aug 2018
79 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:56 pm to
When he ate that fifth sweet roll.
Posted by WhuckFistle
Member since Jul 2015
3021 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:56 pm to
The buffet line.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
66024 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 2:58 pm to
We're a week from the season why are we talking about Bret Bielema?

Like asking you where it went wrong with Les Miles.
Posted by HeavyHog222
Grove, OK
Member since Nov 2015
85 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 3:04 pm to
The job was tougher than he expected. I'm not sure he had the work ethic to succeed at a place like Arkansas. His style wasn't a good fit. You can't bully around schools like bama, LSU, or Auburn.
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4347 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 3:30 pm to
He did not realize the disparity between the SEC and the Big 10?
Posted by CrabInMyShoeMouth
Member since Jul 2016
2486 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 3:40 pm to
The hiring of Kurt Anderson as OL coach. Our o line play relatively hit rock bottom the day he took over, and o line was supposed to be the team's foundation. The foundation crumbled and so did everything else. It also didn't help anything that Jeff Long and Bielema created a culture of integrity first, winning second.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 3:46 pm to
The minute I heard Drew Morgan mention that Bret slept during film reviews, I knew he was the wrong guy for Arkansas. Like it was mentioned before, He got lazy, hired the wrong OL coach, and etc.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 4:02 pm to
I'm not an Arky fan, but I might be one of the few remaining Bielema fans. I think Bielema tried to build a football team the right (or what I consider right) way -- developing a fundamentally sound team that punished you in the trenches and used the ground game to open up the QB play. Just basic tried-and-true football, nothing flashy. He tried to emulate Saban, but he lacked Saban's defensive coaching acumen and Saban's recruiting prowess, and the SEC is brutal on teams that lack good recruiting.

Now I'm going to make a completely unsubstantiated wild guess as to why he declined -- he came in when the rest of the SEC was adapting to Bama and LSU's style of football, which meant the SEC was getting better at taking on teams like the one he was trying to build. I admit this isn't actually a well-documented theory, but it makes some sense to me.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7519 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 4:24 pm to
Even in the season he went 5-3 in the SEC, he lost to Toledo and Texas Tech. If we just win those games it’s a possible 10-3 season after the bowl. The 2016 team blew two huge leads to end the year or that’s a 9-win team.

Our 2014 team was the same way, I really think that team was better than their record but we just lost SO many close games and our terrible kicking game cost us a couple. We had a top 10 defense that year and an NFL RB duo, Hunter Henry, etc.

We just weren’t very physical at all his last few years and were probably the slowest team in the SEC. Our OL had crumbled and the defense reached historic lows after the loss of several players to the NFL. He had some fleeting moments where we looked great but seemed to take two steps back and his record overall turned out to be pretty terrible.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 4:56 pm to
Nothing should have stuck with Bert forever ..the vatech beamer way
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15152 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

He went from 0-8 to 2-6 to 5-3 in the league his first 3 years. Now, as tough as the SEC is I doubted he would take that next step, but I figured he’d be able to sustain that 5-3/4-4 level by recruiting those huge linemen and building a brand around physical play.

When we played y’all in 2014/2015 and had to stop your NFL RB’s running behind 375 lb linemen in November, I was like “well this is gonna be a huge pain in the arse every year”. And then it all went south. What happened?



Missouri happened to stop Arky in their tracks!
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 5:35 pm to
He became enamored with hiring asst coaches who had a year or two of flimsy "NFL experience" and pretty soon we were a staff full of graduate assistants.

The Robb Smith hire was just stupid. He was probably the worst SEC defensive coordinator hire in history. There was no reasonable thought process behind it other than, again, some strange "NFL" thing in Bert's mind since Smith had done a year or two as a linebacker coach or something with dipshit Schiano.

It's as if Bielema decided his own experience was not good enough to evaluate coaches, and so he resorted to thinking "NFL" low level guys were some hidden gems.

In other words, he was lazy as hell.

Plus he's a fricking alcoholic. He needs to get help.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14331 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 8:17 pm to
Bielema somehow recruited for a system that fit a guy like Chad Morris.

He couldn't settle on an identity or recruit to fit it.

The loss of Sam Pittman did Bielema in.
Posted by weremoose
Member since Nov 2015
4181 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 8:28 pm to
He got lazy. There were reports of him sleeping in the film room among other things.

Like Joey Freshwater said, no one out works Saban. An nobody succeeds in CFB without some sweat.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 8:50 pm to
Recruiting is year round in the SEC and much more ruthless than B1G
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14176 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 8:54 pm to
I heard the man had traveller's diarrhea and isolated himself in hotel rooms because of it
Posted by ARKY61
Member since Jul 2013
79 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 9:09 pm to
Honestly he tried to play big boy football against the big boys and didn't have the talent to do it. You can't take 3 star players and line up against 4 & 5 star players and blow them off the LOS it just doesn't work that way. The only way Arkansas can compete with the big boys of the conference is speed and accuracy.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29198 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 10:39 pm to
He couldn't recruit.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27455 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

where did it go wrong with Bielema?

missouri broke him
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