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Judge rules Trump can't block users on Twitter

Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:37 pm
Because apparently our President is a petty teenage girl who can't handle criticism and has to be told how to act.

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President Donald Trump cannot block Twitter users for the political views they have expressed, a federal judge in Manhattan ruled on Wednesday.

Blocking users from viewing his Twitter account — a feature offered by the social media platform — is unconstitutional and a violation of the First Amendment, Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald wrote in her ruling.

"While we must recognize, and are sensitive to, the President’s personal First Amendment rights, he cannot exercise those rights in a way that infringes the corresponding First Amendment rights of those who have criticized him," Buchwald wrote





This is what our government and legal system have devolved to
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 12:58 pm to
But can he unfriend them on Facebook?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84279 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:10 pm to
Who cares tbh
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86601 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Because apparently our President is a petty teenage girl who can't handle criticism and has to be told how to act.

100% truth
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
19056 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:27 pm to
Myspace is still the land of the free and the home of the brave though.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
19056 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:28 pm to
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This is what our government and legal system have devolved to
He shouldn't be making official policy with tweets in the first place. Thats how fricking dumb this all is.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:30 pm to
Stupid bitch doesnt understand how twitter works.

if the poster is posting on a trump tweet. POTUS should be free to block a harassing msg. And how are they going to stop Trump from doing this anyway.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 1:41 pm to
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Because apparently our President is a petty teenage girl who can't handle criticism and has to be told how to act.

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100% truth


Agreed.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 2:08 pm to
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Who cares tbh


Trump does. Oh, he mad.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 2:10 pm to
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And how are they going to stop Trump from doing this anyway.


There was a lawsuit and it went to federal court and Trump lost, so they're stopping him by having a judge say so.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 2:24 pm to
Oh yeah, he mad.

The pussy has a hard time dealing with criticism, not unlike your typical 8 year old. Dis gonna make him pitch a fit I'm guessing. Prob tweet about it in the next day or two when it gets reported on fox news. If it gets reported there.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19857 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 2:30 pm to
I can't wait until i can take my kids to the trump library. The tweets and replies section will be incredible.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3728 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 2:54 pm to
That holding surprises me. I’m not going to read the whole article though
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48220 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:25 pm to
Knowing the world we live in, his eventual violation of this ruling is going to be the reason he faces impeachment proceedings.

That's right: a sitting President will be impeached for blocking someone on Twitter against court orders.

We really do deserve each other.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 5:36 pm to
Georgia ACLU was issuing warnings to various politicians about this very thing back in April. It's interesting to hear a court rule on it.

I'd imagine he could get around it pretty easily by having two accounts, one professional where he just posts pictures signing bills and meeting foreign leaders and another personal one where he can talk shite and block people.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48220 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 6:14 pm to
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I'd imagine he could get around it pretty easily by having two accounts, one professional where he just posts pictures signing bills and meeting foreign leaders and another personal one where he can talk shite and block people.


I would guess that the ruling has to do with the fact that as the President, he is not just acting as an individual but embodies an office. While President engaging on social media, he can't block people but once his Presidency ends he can go back to saying and doing whatever he wants.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 6:52 pm to
Yup.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:11 pm to
Debatable on the point of "governmental control".

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Turning to the merits of plaintiffs’ First Amendment claim, we hold that the speech in which they seek to engage is protected by the First Amendment and that the President and Scavino exert governmental control over certain aspects of the @realDonaldTrump account


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This is why many politicians have two accounts/pages, Paul Ryan is one on Facebook that I can say for sure has two. One as Speaker of the House, and one as just plain old Paul.

I'm sure this will be appealed higher and large Social Media companies may step in on behalf of the President because Buchwald ruled that Twitter is a Public Forum where freedom of speech is protected...that's a very very bad road to go down for YouTube, Facebook, and others.
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 8:12 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48220 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:43 pm to
Paul Ryan as Speaker doesn't compare to Trump as President, though. Trump is the figurative embodiment of a branch of government. Ryan is but one of many people of a separate branch. Becoming President is tantamount to giving yourself to the country for at least a 4 year term; you cease to be just a person and become a standard for the American people. You don't get to ignore the world at that point through any form of communication; you take on the varied praise and criticism of the people and lead accordingly.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:51 pm to
I don't know man, Speaker is pretty high on the totem pole, up there with the VP and CJ of SCOTUS but no matter the station I don't think there would or should be a difference from a legal perspective.

This needs to go to the Supreme Court for a thorough decision. There are a lot of things that need to be explored, like say we're on Facebook and I want to spam racial slurs on the President's page. Can he delete that? Why or why not?

That might be more black and white...but what if I want to constantly accuse a politician of a personal scandal, an affair or a murder or something, of questionable validity...can they delete that?

Can twitter ban people for harassing politicians if their medium is now considered a public forum for political discourse? Does that mean they now have to unban all the White Nationalists?...this case won't define that but whatever the ruling is people like Dennis Prager will surely cite it in their lawsuit against YouTube.

Lots of space here and I think SCOTUS would be wise to clearly define and narrow the scope.



This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 8:54 pm
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