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re: Georgia lost. Some of you forgot.

Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:12 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:12 am to
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I'd take the 2017 class combined with Ole Miss' 2018 class.

Ole Miss' #31 class? You would take last year's #1 Bama class combined with This years #31 Ole Miss class over georgia's #3 and #1 class? SeriouslY?

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That's how good the 2017 has already proven to be.

It's good, but man....if you go #1 then #31 and repeat that year after year, and Georgia goes #3 and #1 year after year, Georgia will be winning titles and beating Alabama in a short amount of time. Short meaning 3-4 years if not sooner.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:13 am to
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But ffs we just went to the national title game last year and added one of the best recruiting classes


You had a Senior laden team that played in the SEC East which happened to be the worst power 5 division in football last year. The team that beat you in only 2 quarters and one overtime of football has an extremely young team coming back many of which got valuable playing time due to catastrophic injuries during the year.

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Georgia will be winning titles and beating Alabama in a short amount of time


Doubtful. Maybe when Coach Saban retires. Coach Saban owns Georgia and Atlanta. Literally.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 9:14 am
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30602 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:16 am to
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Jake_LaMotta


trolls every UGA thread. Its really sad. Bama is better than UGA. Not sure why you got it so bad for UGA but its quite sad
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:16 am to
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Ole Miss' #31 class? You would take last year's #1 Bama class combined with This years #31 Ole Miss class over georgia's #3 and #1 class? SeriouslY?


Yes. I'd take 1 year that hits at 5-6 huge, key positions with game changing players and 1 off year. Now, the assumption would obviously have to be that the 2019 class would have to hit, because you can't have 2 straight meh classes, but my overall point was I'd take the 2017 class combined with pretty close to anything due to the sheer number of game changing players at key positions it produced.

Georgia's 2017-2018 classes may produce the same over time. My argument wasn't really Alabama's > Georgia's, it was more that specifically in terms of Alabama I don't think anyone would trade 2017 + 2018 for anybody else.

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....if you go #1 then #31 and repeat that year after year


(a) It's not year over year. That wouldn't work.
(b) It's not "a #1 class". It's this specific #1 class.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:16 am to
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You had a Senior laden team that played in the SEC East which happened to be the worst power 5 division in football last year

SEC East games accounted for 6 of Georgia's 15 games last season. All 6 were blowouts.

That argument is fricking retarded.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33143 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:16 am to
Believe it or not, Uga somewhat closed the giant talent gap to Bama by replacing the 2014 classes with the 2018 classes.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58991 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:17 am to
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That's almost like using the transitive property.

No it isn't. He said contend. It wasn't a matter of winning. It was contending.

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Georgia's issue is they will more than likely have to beat Alabama in the SEC Championship game to be considered a contender for the National Championship

And we did that this year, right? I mean, we did not have a #1 class and we contended. You guys read too much into what is being said, instead of taking it at face value. nobody is saying if you get the #1 class you will win it all. But I don't ever remember a team with the #1 class not contending.

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(The odds of getting two SEC teams in on a normal year are slim to none).

You're right, but if a SEC teams going to be left out this year it would have been Alabama, not Georgia.

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You will not beat Bama on talent alone, it doesn't matter how many #1 classes you have.

Nobody has said you would. Again. Contend. However, it is proven you can beat Alabama with lesser talent. See: Ole Miss, Auburn, Clemson, etc.

Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:18 am to
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That argument is fricking retarded.


Just about everyone blew out Tennesee, Vandy, Kentucky, and Missouri

talk about retarded.

The East is a joke.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25896 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:19 am to
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Just about everyone blew out Tennesee, Vandy, Kentucky, and Missouri

talk about retarded.

The East is a joke.

It's like talking to a brick wall.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58991 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:24 am to
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Yes. I'd take 1 year that hits at 5-6 huge, key positions with game changing players and 1 off year.


I understand what you are saying, but Ole Miss did not sign a single player that could start for Alabama this year. I mean, if one breaks through and is better than projected...maybe.

However, if you are right, doesn't that back up our argument that a team that signs a #1 class can contend?

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(a) It's not year over year. That wouldn't work.
(b) It's not "a #1 class". It's this specific #1 class.
Gotcha! But let's face it....Alabama's 2017 class and georgia's 2018 class are not going to happen very often. (Although, I wish ours would)
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:25 am to
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No one is saying they can't be beat. We are saying our talent level isn't on their level now. Their 2015 and 2016 classes give them a clear advantage.

All I look at is the 2 deep. The only area where Bama may be better is NT, and ILB. I'm confident in our OLB's and hopefully have to replace 1 starter at ILB (fingers crossed). They are replacing most of their secondary and we are replacing our liabilities in the secondary with 5* talent. Going into 2018 Bama may be talented, but not by a wide margin.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58991 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:25 am to
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It's like talking to a brick wall.

Which is why I don't bother talking to him. He can't bring facts to the table. His best arguements revolve around:
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Just about everyone blew out Tennesee, Vandy, Kentucky, and Missouri

talk about retarded.

The East is a joke.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:26 am to
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It's like talking to a brick wall.



Explain to me how Georgia's wins over Tennesee and Vandy were any different than Alabama's wins over those teams?

Tell me how Auburn's 51-14 win over Missori was any different than yours?

And I am retarded?



The East was a laughingstock that got pounded by anyone with a pulse in conference. It wasn't only Georgia blowing these putrid teams out. You were 2-2 vs West teams. See the problem with your retarded logic?
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 9:27 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:26 am to
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Gotcha! But let's face it....Alabama's 2017 class and georgia's 2018 class are not going to happen very often. (Although, I wish ours would)


Agree - which is why I specifically made that argument about our 2017 class.......and only after they performed on the field. That was actually my reasoning for it, they are a special group.

Ole Miss might have been a BIT too big an exaggeration . I was thinking they finished around 20-25th.
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:27 am to
Been beatable every year but 1.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:27 am to
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The only area where Bama may be better is NT, and ILB. I'm confident in our OLB's and hopefully have to replace 1 starter at ILB (fingers crossed). They are replacing most of their secondary and we are replacing our liabilities in the secondary with 5* talent. Going into 2018 Bama may be talented, but not by a wide margin.


I'd disagree with some of that specifically going into 2018, but in the future (2019 on) the talent gap will basically be gone between Alabama and Georgia.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 9:28 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33143 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:28 am to
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I look at is the 2 deep. The only area where Bama may be better is NT, and ILB. I'm confident in our OLB's and hopefully have to replace 1 starter at ILB (fingers crossed). They are replacing most of their secondary and we are replacing our liabilities in the secondary with 5* talent. Going into 2018 Bama may be talented, but not by a wide margin.


We don't know our two deeps, so how are you doing that? I am going by blue chip recruiting hauls over 4 year periods. We close the gap some in 2018 but it's still a clear gap. Bama had a big adv with their 15/16 classes.
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:29 am to
Why the frick do any of you respond to Jake? He's a brain dead troll that lives and breathes trolling UGA. Of course it will be like talking to a brick wall.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33143 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:30 am to
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2019 on) the talent gap will basically be gone between Alabama and Georgia.


We need to sign a 2 more similar classes to bama to close it all.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25896 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:30 am to
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Explain to me how Georgia's wins over Tennesee and Vandy were any different than Alabama's wins over those teams?

I'm not arguing that they were any different.

I'm saying that Georgia had a lot of evidence in favor of it being a really good team that had nothing to do with beating East teams. That was a relatively small portion of our games.

Not sure why I even bothered typing that out, though.
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