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Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:28 pm
I forget your name, you are the young man with the retarded avatar of the weird guy in a head band, and you want to go to law school.
Read this.
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Don't do it. Forget your sister and your dad. Let them do it. You do your thing.
Read this.
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Don't do it. Forget your sister and your dad. Let them do it. You do your thing.
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:32 pm to deeprig9
Law School is fine if you actually love learnign about and practicing the law.
It is a monumentally terrible idea if you're doing it because you think it will be a lucrative career or you just don't know what else to do.
It is a monumentally terrible idea if you're doing it because you think it will be a lucrative career or you just don't know what else to do.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:03 pm to tylerdurden24
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It is a monumentally terrible idea if you're doing it because you think it will be a lucrative career or you just don't know what else to do.
Or you are doing it because your dad did it, and your older sister did it, so frick it I'll do it too because I don't want to be disappointment to my family.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:26 pm to deeprig9
One guy on TD hates his job so no one else should ever go to law school? I'm confused.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:29 pm to Barstools
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One guy on TD hates his job so no one else should ever go to law school? I'm confused.
There's a back story. Settle down. You don't have to be at the center of everything. Sometimes it is better to sit back and observe.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 9:33 pm to Barstools
It's not an isolated warning. Heard the same thing from multiple practicing lawyers and law students years ago when I was considering the same path. Like any form of graduate school, if your heart isn't fully in it then you need to strongly consider not wasting the time, money, and crippling disappointment used over next 2+ years.
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:32 pm to tylerdurden24
It ain’t for everybody. Some people think law school is like the golden ticket to get into Willy Wonka’s chocolate factory. All you need is to get in to law school and the rest of your life you’ll be handed BMWs and country club memberships just for showing up.
But it’s work. Hard work with long hours, demanding clients, risk, and highly trained and motivated opponents who understand that second place isn’t a silver medal - it’s crushing defeat.
If you can handle that kind of stress and work level, are intelligent and can communicate well through both the written and spoken word, then lots of money can be made. But if you can only get into a shite law school because your undergraduate grades and/or test scores won’t allow you to do otherwise - you should definitely take the hint and do something else.
JMHO, FWIW.
But it’s work. Hard work with long hours, demanding clients, risk, and highly trained and motivated opponents who understand that second place isn’t a silver medal - it’s crushing defeat.
If you can handle that kind of stress and work level, are intelligent and can communicate well through both the written and spoken word, then lots of money can be made. But if you can only get into a shite law school because your undergraduate grades and/or test scores won’t allow you to do otherwise - you should definitely take the hint and do something else.
JMHO, FWIW.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:43 am to deeprig9
He hates every single day at work? This is shocking news.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:55 am to GoldenDawg
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But if you can only get into a shite law school because your undergraduate grades and/or test scores won’t allow you to do otherwise - you should definitely take the hint and do something else.
Preach. I've seen people graduate college, not find anything, then take the LSAT a few times until they can get the scores to get into John Marshall. The success stories on that path are few and far between.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:02 am to ATLdawg25
I agree with Golden Dawg. In 2008 the legal profession took a big hit. It has not fully recovered. If you can't get a degree from a top institution, it's not really worth the effort.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 8:28 am to Dawgbreath
Considered law school at one point and glad I didn't do it. Have three close friends who are law school graduates, all of whom have left practice at this point.
I would say don't do it unless you have a very specific goal in mind, and in that case I would do everything possible to intern or apprentice in that environment to try and get an accurate picture of what the role entails.
You can always make career changes, but it is easier to do without a $100k+ JD debt hanging around your neck.
I would say don't do it unless you have a very specific goal in mind, and in that case I would do everything possible to intern or apprentice in that environment to try and get an accurate picture of what the role entails.
You can always make career changes, but it is easier to do without a $100k+ JD debt hanging around your neck.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:10 am to NCDawg52
+1... it's not isolated anecdotal stories... The legal field simply isn't what it once was. It's also a fairly binary equation with one side "losing" and one side "winning" in most high profile situations. Of course there are shades of grey, but the end result of that situation is that someone comes out looking poorly.
If you're going to invest the time into law school, you'd potentially be better off to look for a cost effective joint MBA/JD program which gives you more potential options down the road and also better prepares you if you ever decided to go into private practice. Largely, none of those degrees are worth a shite though if you don't have a plan on where you want to get and how you're going to get there...
Start with the goal in mind - regardless of whether that may change - and then figure out the strategy to get there. If it involves a graduate degree, so be it... if it doesn't... why waste the time, money, and sacrifice the career earning potential by not starting down the correct path earlier.
Secondarily, if the degree is simply a way of "laddering up" or improving your skillset, but you have the ability to get a jump start on that career at the same time, why not look at one of they myriad of online programs... frick Tech... but with that said, they have an online Masters of Comp. Sci. that is available for fairly cheap (have considered it even though I don't need it, simply because my work will pay full boat... then I remember that I have a kid and enjoy my life... and also... frick Tech).
If you're going to invest the time into law school, you'd potentially be better off to look for a cost effective joint MBA/JD program which gives you more potential options down the road and also better prepares you if you ever decided to go into private practice. Largely, none of those degrees are worth a shite though if you don't have a plan on where you want to get and how you're going to get there...
Start with the goal in mind - regardless of whether that may change - and then figure out the strategy to get there. If it involves a graduate degree, so be it... if it doesn't... why waste the time, money, and sacrifice the career earning potential by not starting down the correct path earlier.
Secondarily, if the degree is simply a way of "laddering up" or improving your skillset, but you have the ability to get a jump start on that career at the same time, why not look at one of they myriad of online programs... frick Tech... but with that said, they have an online Masters of Comp. Sci. that is available for fairly cheap (have considered it even though I don't need it, simply because my work will pay full boat... then I remember that I have a kid and enjoy my life... and also... frick Tech).
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:44 am to fibonaccisquared
That's great advice. Similar to my own experience. Wish someone had sat me down at 17-18 and told me that until I believed it.
To add to the previous point, law is an extremely competitive field, but it's also inherently antagonistic. Unless you have the rare and peculiar personality that thrives on that, it will likely be a drain.
Several of my attorney friends have stepped away from law into my side of the world (sales/consulting) and found much more fulfillment. Still a very competitive space, but if you find a good spot can be much more collaborative and constructive.
Just my two cents.
To add to the previous point, law is an extremely competitive field, but it's also inherently antagonistic. Unless you have the rare and peculiar personality that thrives on that, it will likely be a drain.
Several of my attorney friends have stepped away from law into my side of the world (sales/consulting) and found much more fulfillment. Still a very competitive space, but if you find a good spot can be much more collaborative and constructive.
Just my two cents.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 9:57 am to NCDawg52
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That's great advice. Similar to my own experience. Wish someone had sat me down at 17-18 and told me that until I believed it.
I'm going to drill it into my child's brain until I'm blue in the face... she's not going to listen... and then she'll repeat it to her kids...
I didn't have anyone to really get that one through to me when I was younger, so had to learn it the hard way.
Hell... I *love* arguing and I'm really good at it... and even I don't think the legal field is one I would enjoy for a lengthy career.
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my side of the world (sales/consulting) and found much more fulfillment. Still a very competitive space, but if you find a good spot can be much more collaborative and constructive.
Just my two cents.
100% agree (and if you'd asked me 5-10 years ago, I would have said bullshite... perspective has a way of adjusting over time for sure)... One of these days, we gotta catch that beer.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:50 am to deeprig9
I see you forgot to read the whole back story I gave you.
My dad had no desire of pushing either of us towards law school. He left law and went more into the real estate world. I discovered that I really loved law while doing my legal studies requirement for Terry.
After 3 years of classes getting my legal studies certificate from Terry, and a few law internships I’m still committed and interested in this field.
My dad had no desire of pushing either of us towards law school. He left law and went more into the real estate world. I discovered that I really loved law while doing my legal studies requirement for Terry.
After 3 years of classes getting my legal studies certificate from Terry, and a few law internships I’m still committed and interested in this field.
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 11:58 am
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:59 am to DirtyDawg
Convince me that Roquan isn’t the best linebacker in the draft.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:05 pm to deeprig9
Ahh yes... The prove my merit to some guy on the internet test.
Aside from not caring enough to answer, I also don’t know nearly enough about other linebackers in the draft to compare them to Roquan.
Aside from not caring enough to answer, I also don’t know nearly enough about other linebackers in the draft to compare them to Roquan.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:08 pm to DirtyDawg
You don’t have the will or passion. If you don’t have the time to slap together a few sentences, that’s one thing.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:11 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 1/18/18 at 12:14 pm to NCDawg52
The legal field pretty much sucks. Attorneys are near the top in terms of fun statistics like divorce rates, suicide, substance abuse, etc. Something like 3/4 of all attorneys would switch jobs *immediately* if they could.
There is a personality type that really loves this life, but for most, it's a relentless grind with virtually no job satisfaction and a low quality of life.
And yeah, you can "do so much with a law degree"! You can be an attorney, a solicitor, a barrister, esq.
There is a personality type that really loves this life, but for most, it's a relentless grind with virtually no job satisfaction and a low quality of life.
And yeah, you can "do so much with a law degree"! You can be an attorney, a solicitor, a barrister, esq.
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