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7 years ago we lost to tOSU
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:00 am
Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:00 am
Will Coach Red Bull get us back there?
Had a great time there until the last whistle blew.
Had a great time there until the last whistle blew.
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 9:07 am to ArHog
Ahhhh, yes. That time we had a real coach and we were nationally relevant. I recall a top 5 finish too.
I have Petrino's last 2 seasons, 2006, and our last 2 SWC championships. 5 fricking seasons in my life that we were actually good. It's hard to be a Hog fan, but damn it, if the Cubs can win a world series then it's possible that we could accomplish something too.
I have Petrino's last 2 seasons, 2006, and our last 2 SWC championships. 5 fricking seasons in my life that we were actually good. It's hard to be a Hog fan, but damn it, if the Cubs can win a world series then it's possible that we could accomplish something too.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:14 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
Say what you want but its all about finding the right coach. People love to bring up the jimkies and joes argument and say hpw lil ole arkiesaw just doesnt have the talent to compete with the big boys but go look at what ucf did this year and how they beat auburn with "sub par" talent. Look what peterson and patterson did at boise and tcu. 2 schools that 20 years ago were almost rent a win teams. Look at what gundy has done at oklahoma state or leach when hr was at tecas tech.hell look what james franklin did at fricking vandy!! You can win and win consitently anywhere in any conference if you get the right coach
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:19 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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jimkies and joes argument
I hate when they do that or even the other dude
Posted on 1/6/18 at 10:24 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
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but damn it, if the Cubs can win a world series then it's possible that we could accomplish something too.
I had that exact thought yesterday. Love my Cubbies.
2010 we were good enough to win a NC.
- should have beat Alabama. Gave that game away.
- Had the lead at Auburn in 4th. Phantom calls
killed us.
- OSU game we should have won as well.
That was a GREAT team. Had its flaws, but made up with it via play makers.
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:44 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
quote:This is why being fans of teams that don't normally win can pay off bigly. Watching the Cubs win the world series is easily one of the most surreal moments of my life.
if the Cubs can win a world series
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:47 am to razorbackfan4life
quote:Will never forget that game. Still have the pic of the "TD" they gave to Auburn.
Had the lead at Auburn in 4th. Phantom calls
killed us.
Ball never crossed you fricks.
Yes I'm still salty.
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:41 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
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if the Cubs can win a world series then it's possible that we could accomplish something too.
to play devil's advocate, there are only 30 mlb teams, the cubs have one of the largest markets and payrolls in the game, and are headed by the goat GM ever in the the sport. tough comparison to us.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 12:43 pm to razorbackfan4life
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- should have beat Alabama. Gave that game away.
still dont think ive recovered from this loss. was the greatest environment ive been a part of at a game on the hill.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:31 pm to DeshaHog
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tough comparison to us
Not really. Cubs went over 100 years between championships. They've had plenty of teams good enough to win it all and they always found a way to lose anyways. Sounds just like Arkansas to me.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:44 pm to ArHog
I was there, that night sucked
Posted on 1/6/18 at 1:55 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
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Not really. Cubs went over 100 years between championships. They've had plenty of teams good enough to win it all and they always found a way to lose anyways. Sounds just like Arkansas to me.
This is about the worst comparison I've ever read.
Unless you honestly believe that Arkansas has one of the largest populations in the United States, largest fan bases in the United States, largest payroll in the United States, and largest talent pool in the United States..... and then found a way to lose....
Sometimes my fellow Arkansans have a very skewed view of our state. I think you all should travel more.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 2:52 pm to Kilgore Snout
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fellow Arkansans
For fricks sake, do you take everything literal? I know comparing a pro baseball team to a college football team is apples to oranges, but the point is if you get the right coach in place then you have a chance.
The Cubs went over 100 years without winning a title. Then they got one of the top managers in the game and they won. Payroll means nothing unless we're sliding cash to the players.
How about this....Bama and LSU were in long slumbers (LSU's was longer) before Saban. He turned both programs in to powerhouses. Mullen had State contending in the SEC and nationally. Meanwhile, Florida hired Sharky and turned in to a loser. All starts with the coach.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 4:50 pm to Drewbie
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Ball never crossed you fricks.
Still makes my eggs boil
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:22 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
You still don't get it. Now you're comparing Arkansas to Alabama and LSU.
The Cubs, Alabama, et al. are all solid top-to-bottom products in major markets that are only missing one single thing. A coach. To pretend that the *only* thing holding back Arkansas is a coach is not true.
And Mississippi State wasn't competing nationally. They weren't going to mess around and when a championship. And they didn't. They were still losing to programs like Arkansas and Ole Miss during the Mullen years.
The Cubs, Alabama, et al. are all solid top-to-bottom products in major markets that are only missing one single thing. A coach. To pretend that the *only* thing holding back Arkansas is a coach is not true.
And Mississippi State wasn't competing nationally. They weren't going to mess around and when a championship. And they didn't. They were still losing to programs like Arkansas and Ole Miss during the Mullen years.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 1:55 am to Kilgore Snout
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Mississippi State wasn't competing nationally.
Mississippi State reached #1 for a brief period. That's competing nationally.
Petrino had a #5 finish here.
Chris Peterson won BCS games and had Boise St a top 10 program.
Gary Patterson had TCU winning BCS games before they were a Big 12 school.
Urban Meyer won a BCS game at Utah.
It's all about the coach. It's not me who doesn't get it. If we hire a great coach then they will win here. That's been my point all along and I can't make it any clearer for you.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 2:20 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
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I have Petrino's last 2 seasons, 2006, and our last 2 SWC championships. 5 fricking seasons in my life that we were actually good.
I contend that if Stoener hangs on the the damn football then we might have been playing for a national title in Nutt's first year. We've been "good" more than 5 times in 30 years but not great I'd say.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 2:25 am to Kilgore Snout
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To pretend that the *only* thing holding back Arkansas is a coach is not true.
Only that was proven true. I'm not talking about winning national titles as I think that would be rare if possible but competing nationally can be done at just about any P5 school with the right coach. If you can win national titles at places like Nebraska, Washington and Tennessee then you can certainly win at Arkansas.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 5:15 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
So you're one of those who believes if Boise State had played in a real conference, and not just played one real team a year, then they would have been identically good as Nick Saban's Alabama teams? Or the USC teams in the early 2000s?
That Mississippi State team that got to #1 mid-season finished with 3 losses and outside of the top 10.
Petrino was blown out by the two teams ranked above him in 2011 and then we played Kansas State in a bowl. And I'm sure you remember how we almost lucked in to several of those wins in 2011. I would venture to say that the 2010 team was better than 2011, but faced a tougher schedule.
If we hire a great coach, we absolutely will finish years ranked in the top 10 sometimes. To pretend that we will win a national championship and finish in the top 5/top 10 annually is overlooking many other things. A great coach will do that at a powerhouse school.
A great coach at an average school will not do that. You can look at that with your own examples. How many national championships did Mullen, Petrino, Chris Peterson, Gary Patterson, Urban Meyer, or Chip Kelly win at MSU, Arkansas/Louisville, Boise/Washington, TCU, Utah, or Oregon? And those coaches are all better than what we have shown the ability to hire/retain.
That Mississippi State team that got to #1 mid-season finished with 3 losses and outside of the top 10.
Petrino was blown out by the two teams ranked above him in 2011 and then we played Kansas State in a bowl. And I'm sure you remember how we almost lucked in to several of those wins in 2011. I would venture to say that the 2010 team was better than 2011, but faced a tougher schedule.
If we hire a great coach, we absolutely will finish years ranked in the top 10 sometimes. To pretend that we will win a national championship and finish in the top 5/top 10 annually is overlooking many other things. A great coach will do that at a powerhouse school.
A great coach at an average school will not do that. You can look at that with your own examples. How many national championships did Mullen, Petrino, Chris Peterson, Gary Patterson, Urban Meyer, or Chip Kelly win at MSU, Arkansas/Louisville, Boise/Washington, TCU, Utah, or Oregon? And those coaches are all better than what we have shown the ability to hire/retain.
Posted on 1/7/18 at 5:19 am to ShreveportHog94
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Only that was proven true. I'm not talking about winning national titles as I think that would be rare if possible but competing nationally can be done at just about any P5 school with the right coach. If you can win national titles at places like Nebraska, Washington and Tennessee then you can certainly win at Arkansas.
These 3 schools haven't competed in that arena in a recruits memory. The game has changed since 1992. The game has changed since 2006. I distinctly remember Tennessee and Nebraska being destination programs when I was in high school in the late 90s. I watch 20 year old kids laugh at those programs at work because they have no living memory of those programs. And don't know why people would go to a school like that if you're not from there. But I see a lot of people from all over the country (military) who sport Alabama, LSU, and Ohio State gear.
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