Kilgore Snout

So you're one of those who believes if Boise State had played in a real conference, and not just played one real team a year, then they would have been identically good as Nick Saban's Alabama teams? Or the USC teams in the early 2000s?

That Mississippi State team that got to #1 mid-season finished with 3 losses and outside of the top 10.

Petrino was blown out by the two teams ranked above him in 2011 and then we played Kansas State in a bowl. And I'm sure you remember how we almost lucked in to several of those wins in 2011. I would venture to say that the 2010 team was better than 2011, but faced a tougher schedule.

If we hire a great coach, we absolutely will finish years ranked in the top 10 sometimes. To pretend that we will win a national championship and finish in the top 5/top 10 annually is overlooking many other things. A great coach will do that at a powerhouse school.

A great coach at an average school will not do that. You can look at that with your own examples. How many national championships did Mullen, Petrino, Chris Peterson, Gary Patterson, Urban Meyer, or Chip Kelly win at MSU, Arkansas/Louisville, Boise/Washington, TCU, Utah, or Oregon? And those coaches are all better than what we have shown the ability to hire/retain.

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Not really. Cubs went over 100 years between championships. They've had plenty of teams good enough to win it all and they always found a way to lose anyways. Sounds just like Arkansas to me.

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This is about the worst comparison I've ever read.

Unless you honestly believe that Arkansas has one of the largest populations in the United States, largest fan bases in the United States, largest payroll in the United States, and largest talent pool in the United States..... and then found a way to lose....

Sometimes my fellow Arkansans have a very skewed view of our state. I think you all should travel more.

Just a point of order, Snoop is not "thug culture". What they had going on at USC was "celebrity culture". They had Will Ferrell on the sideline alongside Snoop. And starlets dated players. Snoop is chill, not thug.

It's not like they had a Miami thing going on with connections to drug gangs and nightclub owners. Also, all of that was back in the Pete Carroll and Reggio Bush days. We are almost 15 years past that.

Do you think that the in-state kids we have lost out on in the last 5 years were the difference between our results and being good/great? Do you think that on average we lose games because we lost out on in-state kids, or that we lost out on out of state kids? Do you believe that Arkansas high schools produce higher talent than neighboring states?

Do these kids get a template given to them? Every one of those tweets reads the exact same, "Blessed to receive..." No, you got lucky with your genes and good coaching to exploit your talent.

Do you have a real source saying that we turned down Gundy over Bielema in 2012?


Also, to avoid any revisionist history, the stat lines between Gundy and Bielema in 2012 was this:

BB: .739 winning percentage, 3 conference championships, 3 BCS bowls, 4 10+ win seasons

MG: .657 winning percentage, 1 conference championship, 1 BCS bowl, 2 10+ win seasons


Bielema led teams that had a far more impressive 7 year resume than Gundy did. And that's just wins/losses/champioships type stuff. Wisconsin also put more players in the NFL and won a whole lot of awards and All-Americans.

Bielema has not worked out here. But you can't say, "Hiring someone who had 3 championships, was always a BCS contender, and had a .739 winning % is proof positive we weren't committed to winning because we should have hired the guy with worse stats from a worse/equal conference. That would have proven we were committed to winning."

Sigh.

South Carolina: Population 4,900,000, Black population 1,372,000

Arkansas: Population 2,900,000, Black population 445,000


BUT GUYS! Arkansas and South Carolina are totally 100% identical!!!!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


That's just population differences, it doesn't discuss income levels higher in South Carolina, health statistics better in South Carolina, education levels in South Carolina, population density within a radius of the school being higher in South Carolina...

Yeah, tottttaalllly identical circumstances. And yet we still historically outperform them, even with the worst coach of all time according to OP, Bert.

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All I get out of this is that we won. Meanwhile, the fat man actually lost to Toledo and Rutgers, not almost lost...LOST.

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But that's the point. Petrino could only beat the cupcakes consistently. He would get beat in the games that mattered, back then that was Alabama and LSU (He went 2-6 against them). So Bert's 2-6 record against those two teams is identical. But we've equally if not more competitive in those games the past 3 years.

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It was a one possession game until the last 10 minutes or so of then game.

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It was not. LSU scored last with 10 minutes to go to go up by 24.

I agree 100% with this.