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re: Top 10 SEC RBs since 2006
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:33 am to RB10
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:33 am to RB10
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When are you going to realize his "normal weekly output" is 4.2 YPC and 86 YPG? No matter how many times you throw a hissy fit about it, that's not changing until next sunday.
Let me see if I can rephrase it all for you.
Do you believe that Leonard Fournette is going to finish the season with two runs of 90 yards, and two runs of 75 yards?
Of course not, because contrary to what this thread suggests, you’re a rational person with some level of education.
So, safely assuming he does not duplicate those outlier runs, but continues to touch the ball at his current rate, he will finish with about 348 carries, 1,315 yards, and 3.78 YPC.
Can we agree that 3.78 YPC is below average?
ETA: These numbers are based on 8 more games for LF, which would require a Jaguars playoff birth.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 2:36 am
Posted on 11/20/17 at 4:08 am to jpainter6174
Truth be told, the SEC is the last conference with the persistence to keep running the ball. Which, in a way with offenses today, has allowed the rest of the conferences to catch up competitively. I might be wrong but it would explain the glut of today's NFL backs.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:13 am to Tuscaloosa
You sure did spend a lot of time and effort failing to prove Leonard Fournette is an average running back.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:03 am to BobLeeDagger
Best I’ve seen (college only):
Darren McFadden
Derrick Henry
Todd Gurley
Mark Ingram
Leonard Fournette
Tre Mason
Jeremy Hill
Trent Richardson
Kerryon Johnson
Knowshon Moreno
Darren McFadden
Derrick Henry
Todd Gurley
Mark Ingram
Leonard Fournette
Tre Mason
Jeremy Hill
Trent Richardson
Kerryon Johnson
Knowshon Moreno
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:13 am to ImayGoLesMiles
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Let's see how their pro careers play out
What does this have to do with their college career?
Who drafts a RB has as much to do with his success as talent.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:22 am to I-H8-BAMA
quote:so was just about every other running back on that list. I mean Henry and Ingram were both 1st team all Americans and Heisman winners as well as doak walker recipients. Dmac was a 2x 1st team all American and 2x doak walker winner.
Wasn't Fournette a first team All American? Yeah them first team All Americans don't do anything
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:25 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
McFadden and Henry were the only two that I was in awe of when watching them.
Henry shouldn’t be allowed to be as fast as he is at that size.
Henry shouldn’t be allowed to be as fast as he is at that size.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:28 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Too hard to rank in order all these guys in some order: McFadden, Gurley, Chubb, Fournette, Henry, Guice, Mason, Lattimore, Ingram, Moreno.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:35 am to Tuscaloosa
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So, safely assuming he does not duplicate those outlier runs, but continues to touch the ball at his current rate, he will finish with about 348 carries, 1,315 yards, and 3.78 YPC.
Can we agree that 3.78 YPC is below average?
ETA: These numbers are based on 8 more games for LF, which would require a Jaguars playoff birth.
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Tuscaloosa
Calls himself rational ITT, fabricates stats to try a make a point because the actual stats don't back him up.
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:41 am to SECFan1995
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Percy Harvin
Not even a RB. Wtf
Tre Mason shits on half that list too. Hell, so does Ben Tate.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:31 am to Tuscaloosa
Arguing with LSU fans about their former players NFL careers is pointless. They are not rationale. Fournette in their mind is a future HOF, in reality 99% of his carries have gone for 3.2 ypc.
They actually believe Jarvis Landry is one of the best WRs because he catches a lot of 3 yard catches. It's flat out ridiculous how uninformed they are.
That guy keeps trying to compare Gurley and Bell to Fournette when they are both elite at catching the ball out of the back field so they are always productive. They also have other seasons where they have proven to be elite.
Gurley has 425 yards receiving and is averaging 11.2 ypc. Just for reference Jarvis Landry has 567 receiving yards and is only averaging 8.5 ypc. Bell is so good catching they line him up out wide at WR. They are totally different caliber of backs.
Leonard is on pace to break down and not get a significant 2nd contact if something doesn't change.
They actually believe Jarvis Landry is one of the best WRs because he catches a lot of 3 yard catches. It's flat out ridiculous how uninformed they are.
That guy keeps trying to compare Gurley and Bell to Fournette when they are both elite at catching the ball out of the back field so they are always productive. They also have other seasons where they have proven to be elite.
Gurley has 425 yards receiving and is averaging 11.2 ypc. Just for reference Jarvis Landry has 567 receiving yards and is only averaging 8.5 ypc. Bell is so good catching they line him up out wide at WR. They are totally different caliber of backs.
Leonard is on pace to break down and not get a significant 2nd contact if something doesn't change.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:02 am to RB10
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Calls himself rational ITT, fabricates stats to try a make a point because the actual stats don't back him up.
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That’s what I thought. Wave that white flag.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:18 am to SECFan1995
How is Anthony Dixon not on this
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:27 am to msuboss71
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Who drafts a RB has as much to do with his success as talent.
The NFL could give less than a shite about stats or college production. It doesn't hurt, but they don't base much on that.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:33 am to SECFan1995
Here’s what the official SEC statistics say (since 2006):
1. Nick Chubb – Georgia – 4469
2. Ralph Webb – Vanderbilt – 4015
3. Anthony Dixon – Miss State – 3994
4. Leonard Fournette – LSU – 3830
5. Alex Collins – Arkansas – 3703
6. Derrick Henry – Alabama – 3591
7. TJ Yeldon – Alabama – 3322
8. Ben Tate – Auburn – 3321
9. Todd Gurley – Georgia – 3285
10. Mark Ingram – Alabama – 3261
***Darren McFadden is left off because his career started in 2005
Here is the all-time list:
1. Herschel Walker – Georgia – 5259
2. Darren McFadden – Arkansas – 4590
3. Kevin Faulk – LSU – 4557
4. Nick Chubb – Georgia – 4469
5. Bo Jackson – Auburn – 4303
6. Errict Rhett – Florida – 4163
7. Dalton Hilliard – LSU – 4050
8. Charles Alexander – LSU – 4035
9. Ralph Webb – Vanderbilt – 4015
10. Anthony Dixon – Mississippi State – 3994
1. Nick Chubb – Georgia – 4469
2. Ralph Webb – Vanderbilt – 4015
3. Anthony Dixon – Miss State – 3994
4. Leonard Fournette – LSU – 3830
5. Alex Collins – Arkansas – 3703
6. Derrick Henry – Alabama – 3591
7. TJ Yeldon – Alabama – 3322
8. Ben Tate – Auburn – 3321
9. Todd Gurley – Georgia – 3285
10. Mark Ingram – Alabama – 3261
***Darren McFadden is left off because his career started in 2005
Here is the all-time list:
1. Herschel Walker – Georgia – 5259
2. Darren McFadden – Arkansas – 4590
3. Kevin Faulk – LSU – 4557
4. Nick Chubb – Georgia – 4469
5. Bo Jackson – Auburn – 4303
6. Errict Rhett – Florida – 4163
7. Dalton Hilliard – LSU – 4050
8. Charles Alexander – LSU – 4035
9. Ralph Webb – Vanderbilt – 4015
10. Anthony Dixon – Mississippi State – 3994
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:34 am to Tuscaloosa
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That’s what I thought. Wave that white flag.
You're so rustled that Fournette isn't as bad as you wish he was that you, literally, made up stats because your narrative was falling apart.
That's so pathetic that I actually feel a bit sorry for you.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:38 am to Drebin
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Here is the all-time list:
Weird to me that Alabama has none on the all-time top 10 list... not that it's terribly significant, just that I think of Alabama as historically another good program for RBs, would have thought they'd have one on as well.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:39 am to RB10
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You're so rustled that Fournette isn't as bad as you wish he was that you, literally, made up stats because your narrative was falling apart.
That's so pathetic that I actually feel a bit sorry for you.
I didn’t make up anything. I extrapolated his current stats over the course of an entire season and let you decide whether or not he would duplicate those 90 and 75 yard runs. It’s not hard. You still haven’t answered those questions.
Will he duplicate those runs and finish the season with two 90 yard runs and two 75 yard runs?
Is 3.78 YPC below average?
TIA.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:41 am to fibonaccisquared
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Weird to me that Alabama has none on the all-time top 10 list... not that it's terribly significant, just that I think of Alabama as historically another good program for RBs, would have thought they'd have one on as well.
I think it's probably because Alabama rolls great backs in every couple of years. Most of the players on the all time list were feature back for the better part of four years.
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