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re: Is college football going to end as we know it within the next decade?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:09 am to higgs_boson
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:09 am to higgs_boson
Great book that tackles the other side of the issue
Recommended reading to anyone who's interested in the science,politics and most of all MONEY in regards to the concussion debate.
Recommended reading to anyone who's interested in the science,politics and most of all MONEY in regards to the concussion debate.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:10 am to higgs_boson
As long as there are billions of dollars to be made, there won’t be any drastic changes in only 10 or 15 years. Equipment improvements and rule changes will be about it, imo. The biggest threat to pro ball is popularity, and while this kneeling/anthem deal has scuffed the shine a bit, the NFL is still a monster.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:12 am to AggieDub14
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And the two are connected. Rich people would rather have their kids play soccer, basketball, or baseball.
They already do.
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Soccer in the US is pay to play
Which is my point. The only kids going through our development programs come from wealthy families.
More rich people steering their children to soccer from football will have a marginal effect on both sports.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:13 am to higgs_boson
Yes it will. At least we will all be more productive between August and January.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:13 am to higgs_boson
Not because of CTE. My prediction is that when they dig deeper, they're going to find it is a lot more complicated than simply "playing football and getting bashed in the head." That data isn't available now because the research has been focused on football (because that's were the $$$$ lives).
For example, a significant case was just found in a patient who had no concussion history at all and no symptoms currently being blamed on CTE.
Further, when you get down to youth sports, football isn't the biggest place for concussions. That sport is Girl's soccer.
If football declines, it will be due to changing tastes in sports and a general reduction in sports participation in general.
For example, a significant case was just found in a patient who had no concussion history at all and no symptoms currently being blamed on CTE.
Further, when you get down to youth sports, football isn't the biggest place for concussions. That sport is Girl's soccer.
If football declines, it will be due to changing tastes in sports and a general reduction in sports participation in general.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:13 am to higgs_boson
Football in general is already nothing like it was when I was a kid.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:14 am to AggieDub14
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Families that are on the higher end of the economic spectrum won't be letting their kids play it. Soccer will gain massive ground in this country soon.
The majority of SEC lineups are kids from low income families. Soccer is meh; I'd rather watch rugby. I don't see SEC football declining very much, too many generations and money involved. I think they'll continue to study ways and enforce rules to keep players from leading with their heads (targeting, equipment technology).
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:15 am to higgs_boson
A lot of things are dangerous that we continue to enjoy. Ending football would cause much more damage in society as it is one of the few things that actually bring us together. Think about all the lives it has changed and jobs it creates.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 10:17 am
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:16 am to Fells
That's fair. What it really needs is Title IX reform so Men's Soccer can find a place at more colleges.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:17 am to JustGetItRight
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That data isn't available now because the research has been focused on football (because that's were the $$$$ lives).
There's little if any comparative analysis and long term studies even with the football research.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:21 am to AggieDub14
Soccer has it’s own horrific injuries.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:26 am to crispyUGA
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Yes. I think that within the next 10-15 years, if football is around at all, you will hardly be able to recognize it.
I think there will be significant improvements in protective equipment that will transform the game especially on offense aka offensive players won't worry about injuries and will therefore go after and make plays in traffic that they might not have made previously. Then again, defensive players won't be worried about injuring themselves or hurting offensive players so they will be making spectacular plays also. Just imagine an advanced body armor that is so good and so flexible that you could literally run full speed into a brick wall and not be injured. It's coming. It won't stop bullets but it won't have to in order to protect players.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:28 am to RD Dawg
I don't know exactly what the future will bring but if eliminating or watering down football helps to continue the emasculation of the American male there is a segment of our population that will fight tooth and nail to do so.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:33 am to GurleyGirl
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Just imagine an advanced body armor that is so good and so flexible that you could literally run full speed into a brick wall and not be injured
Your armor would need to suspend the laws of physics.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:36 am to FredBear
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From concussion doctors pushing “science” that benefits their hidden business interests to lawyers clamoring for billion-dollar settlements in scam litigation, America’s game has become so big that everybody wants a cut. And those chasing the dollars show themselves more than willing to trash a great sport in hot pursuit of a buck.
Everything they say about football is wrong. Football players don’t commit suicide at elevated levels, die younger than their peers, or suffer disproportionately from heart disease. In fact, professional players live longer, healthier lives than American men in general.
From "War on Football"
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:45 am to Fells
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We'll invest in better safety equipment and modify tackling. Defense will be nerfed but the market likes high-octane offense anyways.
That won't do a thing. Football players will continue to get CTE as long as they are colliding into each other at high speeds. The only way to drastically reduce CTE rates among football players is to eliminate tackling altogether.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:48 am to Mulat
Or just switch to rugby.
I think it's wildly entertaining.
I think it's wildly entertaining.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:49 am to crispyUGA
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within the next 10-15 years, if football is around at all, you will hardly be able to recognize it.
Hopefully within that time frame better helmet technology will be available. If that doesn’t happen, i can see football changing drastically.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:51 am to Bench McElroy
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Football players will continue to get CTE as long as they are colliding into each other at high speeds
And yet some never get "CTE"
Love to see all the CTE "science"in regards to Soccer,Boxing,MMA,Skiing and people who've never participated in sports (yep they found it in them as well)
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:52 am to Fells
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Football has constantly had to be changed for the past 100 years due to safety concerns, and not only is it still around, it has gotten better from it.
Indeed. Lets not forget that make in the day the game was so violent that Teddy Roosevelt, yes, the President most likely to say "I really like to kill things, have I ever told you about the time I shot a Spanish soldier? Jolly good fun!", stepped in established rules and regulations to tune down the violence. When something is so dangerous that Teddy Roosevelt says you need to ease up...
I would guess we continue to push the concussion tests and no blows to the head trend even further. Meanwhile, much as people poured a ton of money into developing a safer artificial turf, football will spend a butt load of money on developing even better equipment.
The problem being, of course, that the best body armor in the world cannot stop your brain from sloshing around inside your skull and getting a concussion. Lessen the risk of it happening yes, but never prevent it.
Or we decide to say to hell with it and go the exact opposite route and adopt Australian Rules Football or Rugby. Either way it will still be here in 10 years. Its too popular of a sport to go away that quickly.
Basketball, baseball, and soccer will become more and more popular though as people think of those as safer sports.
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