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re: Time to share the wealth !

Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:03 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:03 am to
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The other sports are already bankrupt. This just makes them Double Secret Bankrupt.



Exactly, they are living of the hind tit and barely surviving as is. They are essentially loss leaders for the AD's
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South Carolina participates in a sport called "Ladies Equestrian." Anyone really wanting to do a back of the envelope calculation of that?


Auburns team actually runs a profit in this

Posted by Sunbeam
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:09 am to
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Auburns team actually runs a profit in this




My mind is boggling. I've heard the comment before from people that owned horses that "Horses eat money."

The other day someon on the radio said that South Carolina Ladies' Equestrian team had an event in South Dakota. Given transportation costs, my take on the crowd that shows to watch these events, no money from TV coverage...

Just can't see any way possible. But if it's a fact, it's a fact.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:11 am to
The core of the problem is any system that allows division of money allows the folks with no reason to feed at the trough.

A lawyer, agent, baby momma, or entourage hoping to suck at the teat of the actual star can take a slice when the slice is cash or near cash payment.

Much harder for say a street agent to take a slice of a college education or free room and board.

Anytime you see an argument for paying players it is usually promoted by those who would profit from it.

Think about this in future discussions and figure a way to reward the athlete without paying him.

Full ride to finish a degree
Free room and board
Money management classes taught by school
Time management classe to better prepare a kid for life
Continuing education potential to increase earning / wealth retention post career
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:14 am to
It fixes nothing. Right now every player is paid basically the same from their stipend. Teams cheat to pay more illegally to get recruits.

If you pay them all $50,000 then teams will still cheat to pay them more illegally to get recruits.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:15 am to
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The other day someon on the radio said that South Carolina Ladies' Equestrian team had an event in South Dakota. Given transportation costs, my take on the crowd that shows to watch these events, no money from TV coverage...


FWIW, they bring horses to events. You ride the horses provided by event location

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Just can't see any way possible. But if it's a fact, it's a fact.


Donations and mild sponsorships
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:21 am to
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Allow shoe companies to pay market rate on the open market. Also allow atheletes to sign with an agent prior to leaving. Agents must be certified and not tied to a specific school.

This. Let them make money for endorsements, etc.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:22 am to
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This. Let them make money for endorsements, etc.


Still going to have issues unless the schools let them wear whatever brand they want on court
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:25 am to
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Still going to have issues unless the schools let them wear whatever brand they want on court

I'm sure they could work something out. Schools get their choice of tops and pants, player gets socks and shoes, etc. Something like that. Shoes must match color scheme of school's choosing.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:30 am to
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I'm sure they could work something out. Schools get their choice of tops and pants, player gets socks and shoes, etc. Something like that. Shoes must match color scheme of school's choosing.




The thing is, the apparel companies focus on the shoes more than anything in the contracts with the schools.


UCF lost an Adidas contract because MJ's son wore jordans

It would take a lot of working together with the big brands
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 8:32 am
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:33 am to
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It would take a lot of working together with the big brands

Then it's time to start the conversation.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:35 am to
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Then it's time to start the conversation.


Agreed, if Ford, GM and Chrysler can work together to build transmissions, the shoe companies can do it. ITs just against everything the stand for now
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:45 am to
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It’s time the players who are generating this wealth


Is this really true? Most people don't watch college sports for the players. If you replaced AU and Alabama's teams with a bunch of average students, BDS/JHS would still be packed for an Iron Bowl without talent.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:47 am to
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If you replaced AU and Alabama's teams with a bunch of average students, BDS/JHS would still be packed for an Iron Bowl without talent

I doubt it. No one wants to watch glorified intramural flag football.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:49 am to
It would be closer to a good high school game. If everyone watching based on talent, why does anyone prefer college to the NFL or NBA? Brands are what matters in college athletics.
Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:54 am to
Hell no to paying players. They already get paid with a free education to a prestigious university and the college experience for them is better than for a normal student. They get pussy thrown at them constantly and any kid who was on the team at Alabama, LSU, Auburn, etc will have job opportunities available to them that the average student would not. Now, providing a stipend for them to afford the necessities is another thing entirely.
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:04 am to
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If you pay them all $50,000 then teams will still cheat to pay them more illegally to get recruits.


Yep - just ups the ante.
Posted by GAFF
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:32 am to
School shouldn’t pay them. They’re getting “paid” already with a college education. I do think they should be allowed endorsements tho. If NCAA Football 2017 wants to use them in a game, ok. If Nike wants to use them in commercials they should be allowed to. The kid should be allowed to establish himself as a brand and be paid for that brand.
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