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re: I don't understand why A&M's defense sucks

Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:09 am to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
25550 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:09 am to
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Ron Cooper to coach their DBs and he's pretty good yet their DBs suck.

They might suck now, but give him a few games. He is 10 times better than anyone else in the SEC not named Saban as a total DB coach and is better than Saban IMO.
He had Rosen confused that game. It is controlling the clock and pressure that lost the game.
Best I've ever seen at LSU in my 60 years of watching college football.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14631 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:14 am to
Johnny Chavis is a has been
Posted by chef tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
694 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:19 am to
They were viscous in the first quarter. Maybe the old saying is now 3rd quarter and Chavis.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 6:20 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:34 am to
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Being from Louisiana and talking shite about LSU has been biting me in the arse for 5 years now. Time to stop


you just responded to yourself?
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12276 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:12 am to
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Watching our players at the end, I don't understand. It's like they have no conditioning? At least this year ended early
didn't y'all just hire a new strength and conditioning coach? One that used to work for saban?
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Montgomery AL
Member since Mar 2015
4104 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:19 am to
I think it's the culture of the program. Not necessarily fact that Texas High schools dont play defense. LSU and Bama often get Texas defensive recruits every year... both schools just pride themselves on fielding a good defense.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
79629 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:22 am to
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Johnny Chavis is a has been


Aggie only needs a top 50 D to win it all we were told





Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
38227 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:24 am to
The kid who let the game winning interception go thru his hands was 2015 Mr. Football Louisiana. Capers-Smith should never even see the field.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
12828 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:28 am to
You dumb
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81284 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:33 am to
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The kid who let the game winning interception go thru his hands was 2015 Mr. Football Louisiana


As a QB. He also ran 40s in the 5.1 range and A&M signed him to play corner.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:34 am to
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At the start of the 4th, the game was 44-17. In what fricking universe does your running back who has gone over 200 yards already get 2 fricking carries when you're up 27?!


Yeah so many want to keep the chavis' fault narrative that they don't care about what the O didnt do to keep the game.

Cant keep the D out on the field. Great conditioning or not. Run game gives you control, and as long as there is a dumb fumble, you give the other team less chance of scoring. Why you dont put the ball in the air to avoid interceptions.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 7:37 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34575 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:39 am to
That might still be true, but Chavis has peaked at a top 70 defense at A&M so we will never know.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31061 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:39 am to
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10520 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:40 am to
It's because Chavis runs a soft bend but don't break defense which stays on the field way to long. Add that to Sumlin's run and gun offense no matter the score and his inability to stay with the run with a lead and you get last night and many other examples in their tenure.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:41 am to
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As a QB. He also ran 40s in the 5.1 range and A&M signed him to play corner.


Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:46 am to
Ok. Reasonable comparison. Just a bad mix of coaching era's. But doesnt make him as bad as all yall lsu fans make him out to be.

Yalls O, mainly at qb, has sucked for yrs under miles. Part of why chavis left. He's D needs an O that can do it's part too.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
85393 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:49 am to
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Yeah so many want to keep the chavis' fault narrative that they don't care about what the O didnt do to keep the game.

Giving up 4 TDs in a quarter is awful regardless of what the offense is doing. On a night the offense put up 44, you don't get to pass the blame to that side of the ball. Chavis is a fricking bum, and I couldn't be more thrilled to not have him here.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:52 am to
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He's D needs an O that can do it's part too.


He needs a an O that can milk the clock and rest the defense. That was never a problem here at LSU. Scoring is another issue.

As someone else said, Chavis just doesn't excel at protecting leads. He's on his third school in this conference, and the same issue has risen at each stop.
Posted by Abe1961
Member since Oct 2014
2413 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:56 am to
It is chavis! And it will only get worse with him
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34575 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:56 am to
The thing is you can't just blame Chavis. Our defense has been shite for decades. Amazingly enough, the guy before Chavis was way worse.

Our only hope of ever having a good defense completely rests on who we hire as head coach. I don't think any single person alive can fix our defense via actual coaching, but if we get a guy like Chip Kelly every blue star in the state (aka including the ones currently going to Bama or LSU) will stay home and we will win by sheer natural talent.

Short of that lottery ticket scenario I never expect to see another goodA&M defense in my lifetime.
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