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re: Corso's saying UT and Oklahoma leaving Big 12 in next 5 years most likely 4 SEC

Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:00 pm to
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Do you understand how the were able to ruin the Big 12 and SWC?

Texas needs to have some sense of power at all times. They won't join unless they get some leverage on the conference.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:07 pm to
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Texas needs to have some sense of power at all times. They won't join unless they get some leverage on the conference.

True, but they won't ruin the conference by themselves. That is why the made the big 8 add Baylor and TTU. They wanted to have as much power as they could. If it had ended up with just Aggy and Texas joining he Big 8 the conference would still be solid today, but Texas can't handle not having all the say. If they did join they couldn't ruin the SEC because they wouldn't have the leverage.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8546 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:13 pm to
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That is why the made the big 8 add Baylor and TTU.

Who exactly is "They" (assuming that's what the typo is supposed to be) in your sentence?

Because Texas didn't want to bring Texas Tech and Baylor with them. If anything, they were trying to shed that empty weight. It was Lt. Governor Bob Bullock who forced them into the Big12. Texas faced political backfire if they had resisted. Texas got what they wanted with or without BU/TT
Posted by Floatin on the River
Buda, TX
Member since Apr 2017
37 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:23 pm to
The Texas legislature was what allowed Arkansas to move to the SEC
UT and FSU were the first two choices in late 80's but first FSU said no so A&M was brought up but the Texas Legislature got involved I thought it was because of Baylor but you may know better as I was young at the time and I am only going off what others said and the bits and pieces I read.

This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 2:24 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:24 pm to
The legislature used the funding of what would become Reed Arena as leverage.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30265 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Texas needs to have some sense of power at all times. They won't join unless they get some leverage on the conference.

Yeah, that won't happen. They won't have an opportunity to "join", because they won't get an invite.
Posted by Floatin on the River
Buda, TX
Member since Apr 2017
37 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:28 pm to
Texas has power inside the Big 12 because what it added to the conference
The state of Texas population wise was as much as all the other states combinded. More importantly Texas recruits from Texas HS's littered every Big 12 roster.

The championship game for the Northern teams was a chance for another game in Texas. It was something that they all approved of but it was made to seem like it was UT taking over the conference

Most people do not know why Nebraska hates Texas so much and it has nothing to do with off the field it was pure and simple numbers as the Cornhuskers no longer could compete with Texas

As you have seen leaving the Big 12 hasn't help with that either

Everyone is always looking for scapegoats instead of looking at themselves in the mirror
Posted by Floatin on the River
Buda, TX
Member since Apr 2017
37 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:35 pm to
I do not understand this reasoning

Why wouldn't you want to improve your conference

Is the SEC that afraid of competition
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:42 pm to
Shrug.

Your argument means nothing.

What matters is what I am interested in.

And I am not interested in either Oklahoma or Texas.

You may not be interested in playing my school. That's fine, and it works out for everyone.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119430 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 2:43 pm to
It's not about competition, expansion today is about markets. The SEC owns the Texas markets with A&M, just like the Florida market with UF. We have a presence there.
The places we don't have markets are in NC and VA, which will be the next expansion areas.

We only added Missouri for St. Louis and KC markets.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30265 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:08 pm to
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I do not understand this reasoning

The entire college football world has sat back and watched the UT business model in action in their conference.
quote:

Why wouldn't you want to improve your conference
UT couldn't even improve the conference they're in now. The SEC is in better shape today than it's entire history. Why would the SEC voluntarily take on a high maintenance problem child?
quote:

Is the SEC that afraid of competition

UT will get no invite, period.
Posted by Floatin on the River
Buda, TX
Member since Apr 2017
37 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:11 pm to
Where is your safe space from LSU

Or are you counting on UT to defend you when they play LSU because A&M has embarrassed the state of Texas by allowing LSU to walk all over them
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145248 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:11 pm to
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Where is your safe space from LSU

in baseball and basketball
Posted by Floatin on the River
Buda, TX
Member since Apr 2017
37 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:16 pm to
So proud of your Appearances in the Super Regionals

Funny thing is for A&M that their replacement has kicked their asses the past two years in the Super Regionals

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145248 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:18 pm to
and UT will never be in the SEC
Posted by Floatin on the River
Buda, TX
Member since Apr 2017
37 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:22 pm to
That really doesn't bother anyone in Austin because wherever UT goes will instantly become the best conference

That is the power you left UT.
The ACC, BIG and PAC 12 wants the University of Texas not even mentioning the SEC

I hate to inform my friends in College Station but their huge 100 year decision and their plan to become the true #1 University in Texas is not working and will not work
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145248 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

hat really doesn't bother anyone in Austin
and yet here you are
Posted by Floatin on the River
Buda, TX
Member since Apr 2017
37 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:31 pm to
Someone needs to remove the A&M bullshite from
the eyes of people around here

If the SEC doesn't want OU and UT then that will be their own demise because their product will suffer because they will no longer be the best conference in football

Without UT and OU last year the ACC and BIG pretty much equaled the playing field if not past the SEC

For one and most importantly someone in your conference needs to be able to challenge Bama and the three universities who can UF, UGA and A&M all have their limitations and with A&M it is their own inferiority

Do you need me to show LSU's and A&M's record before Bama and after Bama
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145248 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

If the SEC doesn't want OU and UT
it doesnt
Posted by Floatin on the River
Buda, TX
Member since Apr 2017
37 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 3:33 pm to
A&M doesn't want UT and OU

Speak for yourself
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