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re: Question about Freeze and those coaches that wear their faith so openly
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:57 am to Diamondawg
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:57 am to Diamondawg
Then he already knows who is destined for hell and who is not.
If that is the case then why allow the world to continue to exist?
If that is the case then why allow the world to continue to exist?
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:58 am to Diamondawg
Then he already knows who is destined for hell and who is not.
If that is the case then why allow the world to continue to exist?
If that is the case then why allow the world to continue to exist?
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:00 am to firewater706
Again I am a beliver, but like most have thoughts/questions that can not be answerded.
I just have to trust my faith.
I just have to trust my faith.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 10:30 am to firewater706
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If all beings came from one living organism or cell then where did that cell come from?
I don't know that, there are some guesses but nothing concrete. Some people much smarter than I are trying to figure that out. Also, some other people are satisfied with the answer "god did it".
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If humans and chimps evolved from the same ancestor, then am I to assume chimps are retarded and chose to stay chimps?
Yeah, the same way you woke up this morning and chose to remain human.
Evolution isn't some linear process, there is no goal or target of evolution. Add to that, it is a very slow and gradual process. Evolutionary changes don't necessarily make "improvements" on the previous species; those suitable for survival continue to exist, while those no longer suitable for survival die off. The surviving species aren't objectively "better" than their extinct counterparts, just they were more suited for survival
Chimps currently aren't threatened or endangered by their living conditions ergo they continue to survive
eta: evolution is a passive process, in that it happens to species. It has never been, to my knowledge, an active process where a species directs the process by choice.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 10:44 am
Posted on 3/8/17 at 11:32 am to firewater706
quote:I would have to imagine that your pastor would be more than happy to sit down with you and try to help you reconcile these issues/questions you have.
Again I am a beliver, but like most have thoughts/questions that can not be answerded.
I just have to trust my faith.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:18 pm to Diamondawg
Didn't say I was an avid church goer. To many hypocrites for my liking. I prefer to believe and do my best to educate myself.
As for the evolution theory. I call bullcrap.
That's the beauty of our society. For now we are all free to believe whatever we choose.
As for the evolution theory. I call bullcrap.
That's the beauty of our society. For now we are all free to believe whatever we choose.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:31 pm to firewater706
Don't you think that regarding something as important as your eternal soul, you may want to rethink the idea about talking to someone who is educated in this area...just saying. 
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:31 pm to firewater706
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Do we truly have free will? God is all knowing, correct? If so he knows the choices we are going to make before we choose them, correct? If that is indeed the Case, then how is that free will?
Just because God knows all of your actions ahead of time doesn't mean you don't have free will. In an extremely dumbed down example, let's say I have an apple or a banana in front of me and I'm going to eat one. God knows which one I'm going to pick, he's known it since before I was ever created. But there isn't some magnetic force drawing my hand to either one. I can pick whichever one I want to. Maybe I had an apple yesterday and feel like a banana today. Maybe the banana is turning so I'd prefer the apple. I can pick whichever one I want, based on whatever decision making process I have. That's free will.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:32 pm to firewater706
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As for the evolution theory. I call bullcrap.
For now we are all free to believe whatever we choose.
Very true. You don't have to believe the earth revolves around the sun. You don't have to believe living organisms are composed of cells.
These things are true regardless of whether you understand and accept them. As is evolution; it's really not debatable that evolution occurs.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 12:37 pm to WG_Dawg
I applaud you for your patience in this thread. I don't have enough. 
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:20 pm to WG_Dawg
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Just because God knows all of your actions ahead of time doesn't mean you don't have free will. In
That's EXACTLY what it means.
If anyone knows every choice in life you are going to make, then your life is already predetermined. The best analogy of this is rewatching a movie. You know the outcome but regardless of how much you scream at the TV for that character to not make that bad decisions, that character will ALWAYS choose that path.
If god knows all our choices, then our lives play out like a movie for him that he has already seen.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:24 pm to AshLSU
In this thread we learn that some fans equate their human knowledge and understanding of the universe infinitum with that of the Supreme Creator of the universe and all things infinitum.
What a fresh concept. Should work out great
What a fresh concept. Should work out great
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:28 pm to Diamondawg
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I would have to imagine that your pastor would be more than happy to sit down with you and try to help you reconcile these issues/questions you have.
I've done that many times before. Why can't Christians understand that to some of us, simply answering a question with "because god" isn't good enough. Answering a question with "because god" is just a simple way of saying "this subject is beyond my understanding and comprehension".
There are many things that people once thought were the actions by gods that we now have scientific explanations for. Take lightning for example. The Greeks though it was Zeus being angry. We now understand that it's an electrical discharge caused by a build up of positive charged particles in the atmosphere and negative charged particles on the ground (static).
If it were not for people who decided that the Zeus answer to lighting wasn't good enough, we would not understand the truth about it today and still believe it to be an angry god.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:33 pm to UAtide11
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I don't know that, there are some guesses but nothing concrete. Some people much smarter than I are trying to figure that out. Also, some other people are satisfied with the answer "god did it".
They can actually do it now with strings of amino acids and polypeptides (DNA) and introducing electrical currents and heat. Granted they are short lived, but it is the building blocks for how life begins.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:35 pm to DawgsLife
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Just because God does not heal everybody or everybody you think He should heal does not mean God cannot heal. Just because God does not behave in the way you think He should does not mean He does not exist.
Once again, that goes to question the character of god. He has favorites among his children then. So he's a shitty parent that buys some of his kids a Ferrari but others a Yugo even though he could easily afford to buy them all Ferraris.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:38 pm to bayou85
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You just called God an Ahole. How is that not attacking or belittling? There are respectful ways to discuss things without trying to piss off the counter arguer. Your response to me and Dawg have been to irritate and anger. Quite acting like we are sensitive. You're doing it on purpose and throwing your hands up like nothing happened.
I said by his actions he would be an asshoke in that instance. I belittled him, not you.
There is a big difference. Once again, you are attempting to take things out of context to fit your narrative.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 1:41 pm to Vecchio Cane
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What a fresh concept. Should work out great
Especially with Bill Maher in here helping move things along lol
Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:39 pm to firewater706
Dude, do you not watch the Science Channel... look into the multiverse theory... basically it boils down like this... God knows everything... He gave us free will so in some alternate universe i decided not bang that fat chick and i'm not typing this message... God knows the outcome of that universe and all the decisions leading up to it before and after. He's ran the simulation... the end result is always the same... you die and your spirit goes to heaven or into the dumpster fire garbage hell which is very close to the oxen fiord where William Faulkner grew up. You can still alter your path at any point in the journey assuming you are still alive to make the choice. Ya'll are overthinking this way too much. Somebody had to turn it on. God just is... He's the Dude regardless of some abstract Dark Matter theory that predated big bang and wouldn't be observable... and as far as referencing God as a He... it makes it easier to communicate The Message. Call God whatever you want... Call him Big Burly Beast Being in a cool flannel shirt for all i care. I think he would dig that.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 2:49 pm to yatesdog38
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Somebody had to turn it on
Then what created god?
Again, I've never denied the possibility of a "creator". I just deny that humans could comprehend a being like that and thus understand his reasonings for creating it (building a religion upon it).
Why can't it be that the universe has a creator, but we have no idea about that being other than that? Why do people want to believe that this creator set rules and regulations and wants to be worshipped? The simple answer is that we just do not know. We could have been created because whatever created us was bored and wanted something to do. The being that created us could even be unaware that it created us.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 3:01 pm to Vecchio Cane
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In this thread we learn that some fans equate their human knowledge and understanding of the universe infinitum with that of the Supreme Creator of the universe and all things infinitum.
I don't think this could be further from the truth. Some people want to gain an understanding of the universe, and actively pursue said knowledge. Others are content in not pursuing those answers and accept what they've been told.
To me, it sounds like you are saying "we'll never know as much as god, so why even try to know anything at all". I don't think that's necessarily what you really mean to say
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