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OT - Any Insurance guys on the board?

Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:28 pm
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
5114 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:28 pm
Specifically home owners insurance.

Im buying a house...not a mansion, not a palace...nothing super special. Ive never had a claim on a home owners policy, and the average premium for GA is 77 dollars a month for 2017.

But I am being quoted 250% higher than that for the lowest levels of coverage by multiple companies. What gives?

Anyone with knowledge want to take a stab?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72684 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:42 pm to
0.5% to 1% of value for annual premium is normal.

Divide by 12 for monthly
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 6:46 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72684 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:44 pm to
I had a home inspection today on my first purchase. Have you done yours yet? Mine was interesting.
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
5114 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:48 pm to
Thanks rig...Thats interesting.

The place is only worth about 125k, im paying 100k and the lowest quote ive been given is 2400.00 per year. I feel like i am being quoted to insure a gasoline soaked barrel of tissue paper.

The place is in good shape, recently renovated and repaired...and shares a driveway with a half million dollar home...makes me wonder if they are quoting the wrong property.
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
5114 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:52 pm to
quote:


I had a home inspection today on my first purchase. Have you done yours yet? Mine was interesting.


No. Not yet...though I am doing a VA loan, and I had my appraisal today. I understand they are pretty thorough.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72684 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:13 pm to
I thought va and fha required inspection
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72684 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:17 pm to
Appraisal is very different from home inspection. Appraisers take everything at face value and apply market prices in the area by sq ft to your property to determine a value.

Inspectors get in the electric panel, hvac, attic and crawl space and appliances and water heater, and more:
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72684 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:20 pm to
Absolutely quoting wrong property.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72684 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:21 pm to
Usaa?
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
5114 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:46 pm to
No...buying from a guy who is also a veteran though and he has it insured through USAA for about 75 a month. I was a retard while I was in and never signed up for USAA while I was active duty.

Lender hasn't said anything about an inspection yet...but, of course they didnt say anything about paying for the appraisal separate from closing until after the appraisal, so who knows what joys await me next week?
Posted by Givens
Member since May 2016
740 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:23 pm to
Yeah, that quote is way out there. Should be $1000-$1200/yr.
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:31 pm to
I sold a 130k house in Aug. 2015. Lived there 16 years. Insurance was about $975 a year on it. Now I live in a house that appraised for 260k. Insurance is 2300 a year.

State Farm
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 8:32 pm
Posted by southsideDawg
Member since Sep 2012
2 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:04 pm to
DawgHolliday I am a independent insurance agent email at Russ@Siainsurance.net. I represent Auto-Owners and Hanover that have good rates and coverage. Are you planning on renting the house or is the house vacant?
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 9:08 pm
Posted by busteruga
Member since Feb 2013
311 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:07 pm to
I am in insurance. State Farm is high. Almost double what I pay. My house is insured for about $300k and I pay less than $700. I did add water/sewer backup for ~$40 for $50k limit. No brained as water backup is most common claim and can be expensive if have to dig into slab.

Go to independent agent and get several quotes. I am with ASI on Home and Safeco on Auto. Usually I recommend same company for both but it was cheaper this way.
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:54 pm to
Thanks. I'll check into that.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:10 pm to
I know that you said it was renovated. I guess that it is an older home. What year is it built?

How old is the roof?

Age is a big factor on home insurance for new policies.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:10 pm to
I sure to the replacement value - not the purchase price. Also - don't include the cost of the lot or land. Depending on the finish this could vary widely from the purchase price. I don't know what the construction values are now but $125 to $200 per sq ft would be in the ballpark? A builder would know.

If you have a 1200 square foot house on 50 acres you obviously don't want to insure the purchase price.

I don't know what a benchmark is worth because a house with builders grade shite will be less than insuring a high end property with high end finishes. The average per house is bullshite - unless you want to replace yours with an average house if the whole thing burns to the ground. Average houses don't have wood floors, granite, trim, all brick, etc.

Once you get the value right then shop it. That's the only way to tell who has the best deal.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 11:12 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61249 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 6:32 am to
Insurance is also based on your credit score. Are you young with very little credit, or do you have poor credit? that would drive it up, too. My house is worth around $250,000 and pay about $900 a year with farmer's Insurance.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 6:34 am
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:09 am to
quote:


Im buying a house...not a mansion, not a palace...nothing super special. Ive never had a claim on a home owners policy, and the average premium for GA is 77 dollars a month for 2017.


Had the same issue buying ours in May. Bought a brick ranch in Oconee County (about $40k more than the one we just bought) in 2008 and only paid about $550 a year with State Farm. Fast forward to 2016 and the cheaper house, roughly same size, in a cheaper county was being quoted to me in the $1,300 range. I ended up finding a higher deductible option with Allstate for about $860 a year (deductible is $2,500 instead of $1,000, but if you listen to Clark Howard, he'd tell you to go with the highest deductible you're comfortable with).

Good luck, man!
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 7:10 am
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
5114 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 7:11 am to
Credit score around 650...have had issues in the past...decisions made because of pussy for the most part, but have been on the straight and narrow for 5+ years. Just got a quote from farm bureau this morning for around 900.00 a year, which is more in line with what the seller is paying.
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