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Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:40 am
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:40 am
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Alabama entered the season with the SEC's least experienced roster. Ohio State did the same in the Big Ten. Ditto for Clemson: bottom of the ACC. But it was actually much starker than that.
Phil Steele, the king of preseason mags, uses a five-part formula to determine experience, and he ranked the Tide roster 116th out of 128 FBS teams. Clemson was ranked 101st. Ohio State was dead last at 128th.
Alabama entered the season with the SEC's least experienced roster. Ohio State did the same in the Big Ten. Ditto for Clemson: bottom of the ACC. But it was actually much starker than that.
Phil Steele, the king of preseason mags, uses a five-part formula to determine experience, and he ranked the Tide roster 116th out of 128 FBS teams. Clemson was ranked 101st. Ohio State was dead last at 128th.
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:43 am to Crimson Wraith
When the youth that is coming is better than 70% of most teams roster there is less drop off if I'm not mistaken all 3 have been in the top 5 of recruiting classes the last three years. Couple that with 3 of the best coaches in the game kinda expected
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:46 am to Crimson Wraith
That is coaching.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:51 am to Crimson Wraith
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Alabama entered the season with the SEC's least experienced roster
I beg to fricking differ.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 8:51 am to Crimson Wraith
We get it "Bama Good"
Posted on 12/19/16 at 9:46 am to Crimson Wraith
That is why scheduling is so important . Bama only played one team the first half of the season that had a QB that could cause them to be challenged. It nearly cost them that game. By seasons end, most teams can not use inexperience or youth as an excuse.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:30 am to Crimson Wraith
People keep forgetting that all those yards and touchdowns came after the game was already over.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:17 am to Crimson Wraith
Lol at lsu and Tennessee, both in the top 10 nationally in returning experience and both had absolute disaster seasons
Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:45 pm to Crimson Wraith
Honestly, and I know it's slightly irrational of me, but I kinda wish this wasn't a trend. I don't want CFB to go the way of CBB, and I thought CFB was mostly immune to that because the physical rigors and complexity of the playbook far exceed those of CBB. Experience makes for better viewing, imho. Sure, talent can achieve some amazing things, but there's just nothing quite so satisfying to me as watching a perfectly executed play that obviously took the guys working as a unit for more than a single season to refine.
As I said, it's slightly irrational of me. I can't objectively prove the quality of the game has gone down in recent years, after all.
As I said, it's slightly irrational of me. I can't objectively prove the quality of the game has gone down in recent years, after all.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:26 pm to Crimson Wraith
Bama won every game this year with a lot of young players. Sorry SEC it gets worse from here on out.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:15 pm to Crimson Wraith
bullshite. Our team of small dicks lead by the coach with a dick the size of a small clit are perpetually the youngest. Just ask Lyle.
frick out transvestite team and coaching staff.
frick out transvestite team and coaching staff.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 1:28 am to Crimson Wraith
Bama and tOSU are NOT normal teams. They also had experience where it mattered most and have the kind of rotations where it's not as though new starters are completely new. Hurts and the occasional true and/or RS frosh is the exception rather than the rule. Hell even Clemson has gotten to the point where it's not as though they're playing guys with zero PT a lot or even a ton of underclassmen.
But even if y'all were playing complete noobs you've raked in the top class for countless years. tOSU has been outside of the top 7 and Clemson has been at 8 or above for the past two cycles.
Typically there are two ways to produce great teams. The first is the BAMA/tOSU top class way and tbh it's the most sure fire way. The other is to leverage experience like Washington has but typically that method works best against teams that really only pull top 20 (or lower talent) which is just one more reason BAMA will stomp Washington.
The single most important factor that predicts success isn't experience but your 4 year recruiting average. In fact, several stats models have shown that returning starters/experience simply does not matter/matters only so much. Kicker, oddly enough, matters more than any other position when it comes to returning starters. All that's not common wisdom but common wisdom is rarely correct. What truly matters is the talent you've pulled in.
But even if y'all were playing complete noobs you've raked in the top class for countless years. tOSU has been outside of the top 7 and Clemson has been at 8 or above for the past two cycles.
Typically there are two ways to produce great teams. The first is the BAMA/tOSU top class way and tbh it's the most sure fire way. The other is to leverage experience like Washington has but typically that method works best against teams that really only pull top 20 (or lower talent) which is just one more reason BAMA will stomp Washington.
The single most important factor that predicts success isn't experience but your 4 year recruiting average. In fact, several stats models have shown that returning starters/experience simply does not matter/matters only so much. Kicker, oddly enough, matters more than any other position when it comes to returning starters. All that's not common wisdom but common wisdom is rarely correct. What truly matters is the talent you've pulled in.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 7:44 am to Crimson Wraith
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Alabama entered the season with the SEC's least experienced roster.
Rebuilding year at Alabama in my opinion. Next year is finally our year.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:48 pm to Crimson Wraith
Nice find CW. Thanks for sharing. This was my favorite part.
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But now that those plans have come to historic fruition, that speech has changed. Either you're on board with the Process or you aren't. Not on board? Enjoy your time playing elsewhere. If you are, we'll need your ring size.
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Posted on 12/20/16 at 6:02 pm to Crimson Wraith
It's all about the jimmies and joes. This is what hog fans don't understand. We get 2/3* kids and think we can coach them up and are surprised when the top teams beat the brakes off us.
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