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LSU problems is it Miles or Cam.

Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:17 am
Posted by Alabamaoutlaw
Member since Jul 2016
510 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:17 am
Is Miles a control freak micromanager who will not allow the OC to open the offense up?

Or is Cam not capable of developing QB and running a more modern style of offense.
Posted by Steamy Ray
Member since Jan 2013
1016 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:18 am to
Idk. Let's fire both to be safe
Posted by Pankins
Flahrida
Member since Oct 2010
1198 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:18 am to
Both. But Miles is the constant variable for years.
Posted by mikeb0870
Member since Sep 2015
366 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:18 am to
Well Miles is the common denominator for all the teams that played under their potential so I'll go with Miles.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25125 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:24 am to
Both. Miles is too stubborn to modify his outdated, vanilla gameplan, and Cam is too incompetent to even run it.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17321 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:31 am to
Miles has had several offensive coordinators with the same underachieving results. Miles is the problem and he must go.
Posted by sunseeker
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2016
2651 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:35 am to
You can't open up an offense when Harris is the worst quarterback in the entire county.
Posted by LSU_Smash_the_West
Nawwwlins
Member since Jan 2016
1568 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:36 am to
It's both.. Even when Les won his first NATTY I said back then he wasn't the coach for LSU he always made stupid mistakes.. Poor clock management, poor usage of time outs. He is a average coach that landed into a good program. I been saying it for years they need to fire him. I'm sick of this shite. As a huge LSU fan I'm so disappointed in the program. They should've took care of this problem years ago.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76778 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:39 am to
It's Miles. Cam never had Brees doing toss dives to LT.
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3226 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:44 am to
It doesn't matter which one is the problem because we are stuck with both.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:45 am to
It's QB man. LSU runs pro style but recruits dual QB's. They can't run this system, Mdtt could as a pocket passer, these other kids don't have the IQ, football wise.


So it's a big ole combination of things. Not just Les, Not just Cam, Not just playcalling, not just Harris. It's all of them together
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48683 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:46 am to
The Nega-Tigers are the problem. They cheer for LSU to play poorly and it hurts recruiting. That's why it's been tough to get many 5 star QB recruits to play for LSU.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9801 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 10:56 am to
LSU' s problems are a combination.
First, LSU' s expectations are too high. The fans believe every year the talent is super human when in reality it's about where everybody else is. If you look at history other than a few year stretch LSU is a 8,9 win team. They had a run but everybody does. Their program history doesn't bear out what fans expect.

Philosophy- Not sure what it is but they are continually whipped up front because they have smaller players but try to play smash mouth. They played right into a significantly less talented but better schemes wiscy teams wheelhouse.

DISCIPLINE- this has always what I thought was miles biggest issue. I heard Jimmy Johnson say u get what u expect. Kids are kids and will do nothing if not forced to do it on the football field. I don't see respect for miles from his players but actually see players who view him as a friend. When was the last time u saw him get somebody's arse after a missed assignment? He does that stupid thing of trying to hold his players back coming out of the tunnel. That's playing around. His players aren't afraid of him. Vince Lombardi said football is 20 percent talent, 10 percent scheme and 70 percent son of a bitch. Belichick said a coach is a dictator. Miles is viewed as a great players coach well so was mike Dubose. Those guys generally underachieving. Players need to be on edge, afraid of film study because of getting bitched out, and pucker up when they see the coach coming their way. He's a good guy and that's great but those guys aren't good coaches, they are good insurance salesmen. Yesterday's late hit shows the lack of discipline. Saban would have whipped that guys arse right on the field for that cheap shot. I have never seen miles get in a player's face, He just claps. There's no intensity from the players because they aren't afraid they're gonna piss him off. That player yesterday was talking shite to an asst coach after the hit. Where was miles? He should have been all in his arse. He was staying out of it. He has a problem with confronting his players.
Posted by Arena30
Youngsville
Member since Jul 2015
775 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 11:22 am to
Miles is the marionettist, cam is the marionette.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12480 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 11:25 am to
Both are Michigan retreads. They will get you killed on the road.
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 11:27 am to
Unfortunately, LSU has more than one problem.

Probably 99, but a quarterback ain't one
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13184 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 11:57 am to
LSU just needs a good mobile QB and a wide-open offense. Exhibit A: just look at what difference a QB change made to Alabama's offense.
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4058 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:02 pm to
Both because Miles is the HC & Cam follows his friend/boss like a puppy. So Miles' philosophy sucks & Cam isn't man enough to stand up to him or walk out like the other OC's did when they got tired of the BS. Not to mention that Cam still hasn't been able to develop a QB to run this hot mess of an offense.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19122 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:05 pm to
Taint neither. It's lousy QB and OL play.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33341 posts
Posted on 9/4/16 at 12:27 pm to
both... there is no way Cam Cameron should have been hired back at LSU.
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