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re: LSU fans...Tell me about Derrius Guice

Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
43993 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:44 pm to
How is OU a gimmick offense?

Having a quarterback that knows how to complete a forward pass doesn't make you a gimmick offense.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 2:55 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268678 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:48 pm to
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WG, you don't understand. Guice tore up incredible defenses like A&M, Texas Tech, Western Kentucky, and South Carolina.

He is obviously better than guys Samaje Perine and Royce Freeman.



This will be bumped.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
43993 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:51 pm to
Why will it be bumped? I've said incredibly positive things about Guice including that he's one of the best 3 back ups in the SEC. I think he's going to be very good this season. I just don't think he's a top 5 back in college football already with 13 rushing yards in his career against top 50 defenses.

Shouldn't be a hot take.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:51 pm to
Look Guice is nice but that freshman year was garbage minutes and many vs bad teams

Fournette was carrying the ball in prime time with every eye on him in big games

Guice will no doubt be playing on Sunday's barring injury and will shape up to be a top back for LSU in my lifetime
Posted by RagingCajun3195
Fort Worth
Member since Aug 2014
2018 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:55 pm to
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Whatever team that was needs to go back and learn how to tackle. My goodness.


It was A&M. Go figure
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 2:56 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45667 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:13 pm to
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The sunshine pumping by L5u fans are legend.


Saying he's rushed for more yards than all of Bama's backs combined isn't sunshine pumping.

It's a cold hard fact.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7774 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:34 pm to
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Look Guice is nice but that freshman year was garbage minutes and many vs bad teams



Look I can understand this but it's not like Guice's runs were strait line runs without a hand on him. He's throwing dudes off of him an running through multiple defenders at a time. Just about every run he broke at least two tackles. Garbage time or not there is something to be said for that.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
66366 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:42 pm to
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but has better vision

based on what? I see this a lot and would like to know where this idea comes from?
quote:

can cut on a dime
so can Fournette
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
66366 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:43 pm to
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Alfred Blue was an NFL starter last year

not due to him winning the job. he started due to injuries. he also averaged only 3.8 ypc
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
66366 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:46 pm to
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Garbage time or not there is something to be said for that.


yes, the defense was worn down after LSU pounded the ball for 2.5-3 quarters. Can you imagine the damage Fournette would do against tired, shitty defenses on fresh legs?
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7774 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:48 pm to
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yes, the defense was worn down after LSU pounded the ball for 2.5-3 quarters. Can you imagine the damage Fournette would do against tired, shitty defenses on fresh legs?




So you don't think defenses sub guys in and out either? Who gives a shite if they don't have fresh legs anyway. 3-4 guys should be able to take down one ball carrier regardless.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
43993 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:54 pm to
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lsufball19


You're being objective.

Apparently you can't say "Guice is incredibly talented, but hasn't faced great defenses yet" without feeling the wrath of some LSU fans.

I just hope there's no one out there who think Guice had a more impressive freshman season than Chubb.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
42553 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:54 pm to
Guice is a fast 220 pound back with very good vision and moves. He also has a style in which he initiates contact, and uses it to prevent the tackler from wrapping him up.

It's strange that LSU has never had great backs. We've had lots of good ones, but never a Bo, Hershal, or even a McFadden or Chubb, until now - and we get two of them in back-to-back classes.

With that said, he's not as good as Fournette.
Posted by BigVoodoo
Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Jul 2015
1140 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:08 pm to
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It's strange that LSU has never had great backs. We've had lots of good ones, but never a Bo, Hershal, or even a McFadden or Chubb, until now - and we get two of them in back-to-back classes.


Kevin Faulk laughs at this All Eyes On 3
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:16 pm to
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It's strange that LSU has never had great backs


ummm
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
29319 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 4:17 pm to
He's better than Fournette FWIW
Posted by Uncle Luke
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
439 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 5:02 pm to
Nobody said he was better than Fournette. Anybody that wants to just blindly quote stats has never seen Guice run. He breaks lots of tackles, pushes the pile, always falls forward. Wait til the season starts, yall will see.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
43993 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 5:10 pm to
No one is blindly quoting stats. I was using stats to help build context around Guice's performance. He's obviously a very talented running back and I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

There were people who said his Freshman season was better than Fournette's.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
61202 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 5:16 pm to
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There were people who said his Freshman season was better than Fournette's.


well his one big game was better than any one game LF had his freshman year

he's not better than LF though
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 5:17 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
66366 posts
Posted on 8/25/16 at 5:55 pm to
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well his one big game was better than any one game LF had his freshman year


i don't think 160 yards against South Carolina was better than Fournette's games against Ole Miss, Florida, or Notre Dame, but whatever you say
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