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re: Are you sold on McElwain at Florida?
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:16 pm to CNB
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:16 pm to CNB
Yes, I think he's a damn good coach. CSU was absolute shite when he got there. I do think they take a bit of a step back this year in terms of SEC play but he will keep UF competing for SEC titles IMO.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:25 pm to 12thFairway
Unless its just a total sh**show i believe any HC should get at least 3-4 yrs to get his guys out there and see how he does.
We'll wait n see.
We'll wait n see.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 1:14 am to CNB
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I certainly don't, but he still won the East.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 2:26 am to CNB
so far he seems to have a good grasp of X's and O's but he also seems less adaptable than he should be. What I mean by that is college football is never going to be ideal roster wise (unless you're at Bama) and he's been slow to tailor his offense to guys that don't fit perfectly and/or just don't fit his system at all.
Classic example: Roper did a much better job when he coached Treon.
In the xbox/theoretical sense, where you're looking at Xs and Os in a more pure way (without pesky players ruining it), I think he's great.
tl;dr - Not sold on Mac but I do think he has potential and playcalling talent. Intangibles so far are what's missing.
Classic example: Roper did a much better job when he coached Treon.
In the xbox/theoretical sense, where you're looking at Xs and Os in a more pure way (without pesky players ruining it), I think he's great.
tl;dr - Not sold on Mac but I do think he has potential and playcalling talent. Intangibles so far are what's missing.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 6:31 am to MizzouTrue
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Who cares about split division titles?
Ole Miss circa 2003. They hang banners for shite like that
Posted on 8/20/16 at 8:29 am to CNB
Which Florida poster got to you?
Posted on 8/20/16 at 8:31 am to Prof
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Classic example: Roper did a much better job when he coached Treon.
Roper's offense fit Treon's skills. Mac's does not. Hard to completely change the offense mid year to fit Treon who isn't any good anyway.
No one is good with Treon as your QB. No one. Belichick would suck with Treon.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 9:06 am to Prof
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less adaptable than he should be. What I mean by that is college football is never going to be ideal roster wise (unless you're at Bama) and he's been slow to tailor his offense to guys that don't fit perfectly and/or just don't fit his system at all.
Classic example: Roper did a much better job when he coached Treon.
I think this is inaccurate. McElwain did tailor the offense for Treon's first few games and he even talked about it in pressers. Towards the end of the season when it was clear Treon was simply not going to be a successful QB(or our QB of the future), he started to run "his" offense, or the system he wanted to install for the future -- because the rest of the offense needed to continue to progress and he needed to make sure they understood his system.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 9:13 am to roadGator
Calm down, RG. All in the name of good discussion
Posted on 8/20/16 at 9:16 am to CNB
I'm not calm?
When a post is worded like this it appears to be a reaction to a troll. I could be wrong. It would be the 2nd time.
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If Florida has a bad year this year, will McElwain be exposed as a bad coach since Florida gets all this talent? How long would Florida put up with him, since they have such high expectations?
When a post is worded like this it appears to be a reaction to a troll. I could be wrong. It would be the 2nd time.
This post was edited on 8/20/16 at 9:18 am
Posted on 8/20/16 at 9:25 am to Prof
I think everyone would agree that his offense under Treon was horrible. I would want to see him use another dual threat QB before I would blame him. Harris seem to be scared of contact which is a problem when your a athlete playing QB. If you watch Harris and Grier run the ball it's not even comparable. Grier was not scared of getting hit . The fact that this year Harris wasn't even given a chance to play QB and transferred , says a lot about how much coach Mac thinks of him. Treon was recruited by Roper because he fit his system. Harris went to UF because they gave him a chance to play QB and FSU wouldn't . The good news is that coach Mac doesn't seem to have a problem getting pro style QBs. Coach Mac is smart enough to know that you need a QB that can pass the ball. He has never had super talented QBs but they have all done good because they can pass the ball except Harris .
Posted on 8/20/16 at 9:27 am to tim85
Mac said at a presser that he was not changing the offense for one guy and screw the devolpment of the other ten guys.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 9:43 am to roadGator
You're going to pop a blood vessel man. Chill out
Posted on 8/20/16 at 10:25 am to CNB
I am sold on year one. SEC coach of the year. To be fair the last 5 SEC coach of the year winners are either out of work or on the hot seat, so take it FWIW. We shall see about year two. Definite upgrade over our last coach for sure.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 12:12 pm to tim85
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I think this is inaccurate. McElwain did tailor the offense for Treon's first few games and he even talked about it in pressers. Towards the end of the season when it was clear Treon was simply not going to be a successful QB(or our QB of the future), he started to run "his" offense, or the system he wanted to install for the future -- because the rest of the offense needed to continue to progress and he needed to make sure they understood his system.
We'll have to agree to disagree (tho we do agree a whole lot) I think Mac stuck to his system because he already had the East wrapped up and deemed getting players used to the system for next year far more important that helping a bad QB in Treon.
Roper did so much better with Treon, imo.
That said, I think's better for coaches to adapt. The latter half of UF's season didn't need to be so bad,
Posted on 8/20/16 at 12:16 pm to Prof
McElwain didn't need to tailor the offense to Treon as good as the defense was. He would rather continue to develop the other guys in his system.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 3:55 pm to djsdawg
Just imagine how much worse we would've beat uga with competent QB play. Or just wait for this year's game.
Posted on 8/20/16 at 4:32 pm to Prof
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Roper did so much better with Treon, imo.
Define so much better.
Completion %
2014 49
2015 50
He threw the ball over twice as much more last year than 2014. He threw for the same number of touchdowns though. He threw 6 INTs last year and 4 under Roper.
Treon was awful with our without Roper.
49% completion
49
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