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re: Alabama grants release to DB Marcus Smith, pending SEC waiver ruling
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:25 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:25 am to DawgsLife
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Do you have a first name? I'm not familiar with him. What position did he play? I tried to look up last years roster, but can't find him listed anywhere.
Gehrig Dieter.
He played WR at Bowling Green before transferring to Alabama this summer.
He caught 7 passes for 133 yards and a TD against Tennessee last year.
He finished the year with 94 catches for 1,033 yards and 10 touchdowns.
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:29 am to 14&Counting
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Richard Mullaney comes to mind
He actually did pretty good for you guys. he was 4th on your team receiving and made a contribution, but I would hardly say another team is going to melt down over losing him, do you? I mean, you guys played 15 games and he averaged 2.5 catches a game. Solid, but not exactly an impact player. In fact, I would guess he got most of his production after the game was settled.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:32 am to DawgsLife
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Solid, but not exactly an impact player. In fact, I would guess he got most of his production after the game was settled.
You know how I know you didn't watch Bama much last year?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:34 am to TideSaint
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Gehrig Dieter.
He played WR at Bowling Green before transferring to Alabama this summer.
Ah! My bad. I was thinking he played for you guys in 2015.
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He finished the year with 94 catches for 1,033 yards and 10 touchdowns.
He was solid for Bowling Green last year, but, I am guessing will be providing depth for you this year?
I guess my point is...I don't see Alabama going after a bunch of graduate players. Some of the guys are acting like it is going to be open season and mass movement in the SEC, when that simply is not the case.
Also, Dieter could have made the move to Alabama anyway. he was not restricted by the rule we are talking about. We are talking about SEC players, and I don't remember an impact SEC player that wanted to go elsewhere to play. By impact, I am not talking about somebody that gets mop up duty....I am talking about somebody that comes in and makes a meaningful contribution.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:37 am to 14&Counting
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You know how I know you didn't watch Bama much last year?
You know how I would know you are correct?
Can you point to games in which he made meaningful contributions? I'd be glad to go take a look at the game logs.
Again...we are talking about SEC players because those are the players that are affected by the rule. I am not aware of a large number of those players that are leaving to play at another school.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:40 am to DawgsLife
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We are talking about SEC players, and I don't remember an impact SEC player that wanted to go elsewhere to play.
That is because it hasn't been allowed until now. If it is allowed, teams will be looking at everyone elses team to see who they can offer if they think they can contribute.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:49 am to 14&Counting
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That is because it hasn't been allowed until now.
It has been allowed for a few years now, with a brief period of a few years where it wasnt, then before that was allowed.
Nothing has changed
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. If it is allowed, teams will be looking at everyone elses team to see who they can offer if they think they can contribute.
And they wont be able to contact them at all
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:51 am to 14&Counting
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That is because it hasn't been allowed until now. If it is allowed, teams will be looking at everyone elses team to see who they can offer if they think they can contribute.
But they can't do that. the kid has to leave before he can be contacted, right? I mean, if teams were just going to be looking over rosters and offering it would be different.
I looked up Mullaney. He had one truley productive game. (IMO) That was against Ole Miss. He had 2 TD catches. he caught 3 TD passes the rest of the year (14 games) and in THOSE games had very few yards. (Usually around 20 yards or so) Not what i would say is an impact player.
But getting back to players leaving whole sale....while SEC players could not leave and go to another SEC school they could go to any school outside of the SEC. But...they didn't. Most either stayed at their current school or just didn't play anymore. I don't see that changing. When Maurice Smith stated he was leaving Alabama it made news. First he was going to Baylor....but my point is we all heard about it. I just haven't heard of that many people wanting/announcing they were leaving their teams to go to other schools.
I don't know if there are statistics on this, but I would be curious to know how many Graduate students do leave their schools to play elsewhere nation wide. I have no idea.
I know Georgia had Greyson Lambert...but we all know how that went!
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:52 am to DawgsLife
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the kid has to leave before he can be contacted, right?
They have to ask permission to contact other schools, which as we have seen pretty much means you are gone
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:00 am to NYCAuburn
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They have to ask permission to contact other schools, which as we have seen pretty much means you are gone
Ah! I'm glad you are still in this thread. You know much more about the rule than I do.
And, like I said several times.....I have no problem with Saban denying Smith's transfer. He did what the rule says he can do. I just find it odd that Alabama fans are so upset about it, and think it will open some kind of floodgate of players changing teams. Then, for them to say they are going to go out and scoop them all up it makes me wonder why they are so upset about it. They should be ecstatic this is happening. It would give them an added edge.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:03 am to DawgsLife
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I just find it odd that Alabama fans are so upset about it, and think it will open some kind of floodgate of players changing teams. Then, for them to say they are going to go out and scoop them all up it makes me wonder why they are so upset about it. They should be ecstatic this is happening. It would give them an added edge.
it's just some of them, but it's the stereotypical bama fan. They are just trying to protect us from what they could really do...
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:05 am to NYCAuburn
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it's just some of them, but it's the stereotypical bama fan. They are just trying to protect us from what they could really do...
It's hard to argue with their success. It just strikes me as odd that they all seem so upset about it.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:05 am to DawgsLife
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It's hard to argue with their success. It just strikes me as odd that they all seem so upset about it.
It's typical fandom. Circle the wagons
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:07 am to DawgsLife
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Can you point to games in which he made meaningful contributions? I'd be glad to go take a look at the game logs.
Every single one...he was our slot receiver which involves more than just receptions...he was more a safety release for Coker and pass/run blocker...he was instrumental in every game.
Damn dude...get off those dry statistics
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:17 am to DawgsLife
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It just strikes me as odd that they all seem so upset about it.
Not upset per say. Just hate the double standards and the beta way he let mommy persuade him to do things.
If folks aren't going to be held to 4 yr scholarships, then what was the point of making University's honor them?
There isn't a single school out of the SEC, out of what.. about 115 to choose from that offers post graduate degree in what he supposedly wants to get a degree in? Right.
Perhaps since they wanted to be so public about everything, journalists should dig deeper into his mom and dads affairs and the contact they've made with other schools. They are after all, now public figures of their own doing after going to the press. Perhaps there is a lot more to this story than meets the eye on their part.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:24 am to Alahunter
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Perhaps since they wanted to be so public about everything, journalists should dig deeper into his mom and dads affairs and the contact they've made with other schools. They are after all, now public figures of their own doing after going to the press. Perhaps there is a lot more to this story than meets the eye on their part.
Oh I guarantee it....I am convinced Tucker and Smart had impermissible contact. I would like for the league to condition his release on UGA turning over all email, text, and other forms of communication related to this.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:27 am to Alahunter
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If folks aren't going to be held to 4 yr scholarships, then what was the point of making University's honor them?
There are no 4 year scholarships. They are renewed ona yearly basis. It is normally a formality, but it's there. And Saban processes players from time to time, so what's the difference? I mean, schools "suggest" to players they should look elsewhere all the time.
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There isn't a single school out of the SEC, out of what.. about 115 to choose from that offers post graduate degree in what he supposedly wants to get a degree in? Right.
Well, we both know the degree thing is a sham....actually it would be for most people, but with him graduating in three years, I would give him the benefit of the doubt. Obviously academics are at least fairly important to him.
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Perhaps since they wanted to be so public about everything, journalists should dig deeper into his mom and dads affairs and the contact they've made with other schools. They are after all, now public figures of their own doing after going to the press. Perhaps there is a lot more to this story than meets the eye on their part.
You very well could be right.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:27 am to Alahunter
quote:There's more to the story, but it serves no constructive purpose at this point to dig any further.
Perhaps since they wanted to be so public about everything, journalists should dig deeper into his mom and dads affairs and the contact they've made with other schools. They are after all, now public figures of their own doing after going to the press. Perhaps there is a lot more to this story than meets the eye on their part.
Saban released Smith within 4 days of him becoming eligible. He had to first be a graduate before he could be a graduate transfer.
Now it's in the SEC's hands to determine if Smith's circumstances for a waiver can be justified.
Good luck Mo, thanks for your contributions. RTR!
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:28 am to 14&Counting
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Oh I guarantee it....I am convinced Tucker and Smart had impermissible contact. I would like for the league to condition his release on UGA turning over all email, text, and other forms of communication related to this.
Is this based upon shady dealings they had while at Alabama that you are aware of, or do you think they are just now doing shady and impermissible stuff?
Posted on 8/12/16 at 10:29 am to 14&Counting
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I just posted on the Bama board but Nick and Bama are catching an unwarranted amount of shite over this simply because everyone loves them some good ole Saban bashing.
It would be the same of any coach blocking a transfer with a player publicly complaining. There is no way a coach can win in the situation. The narrative just sets up too perfectly for media.
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