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A little perspective-Auburn transfers

Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:07 am
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:07 am
Transfers happen in most major programs. The Sips and Bama have had much worse issues with attrition, but it doesn't get publicised.

Didn't know Auburn was having these issues, but again they don't draw the negative pub our program does.

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Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63243 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 7:28 am to
It's all one big giant conspiracy against Aggy. The college football media world must revolve around us to perpetuate it for so long
Posted by Raid05
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
1105 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:46 am to
We had two high profile quarterbacks transfer in a week, it was a big deal and it looked horrible for our program.

Don't let the LSU trolls get you so riled up.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:54 am to
It's not a conspiracy, but there really isn't anybody invested in the success of an A&M football program. This is a Big 12 state and we left them for the SEC. The readers love it when sports writers bash the program. It makes him feel a little bit better even though they're stuck in that dumpster fire for a conference.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:29 am to
quote:

It's not a conspiracy, but there really isn't anybody invested in the success of an A&M football program. This is a Big 12 state and we left them for the SEC. The readers love it when sports writers bash the program. It makes him feel a little bit better even though they're stuck in that dumpster fire for a conference.


And even when we WERE in the Big 12, there still wasn't anyone invested in the success of A&M, because this is a Longhorn state and it was a Longhorn, Sooner & Husker conference. It's not a conspiracy in the sense that they don't have candlelight meetings in a cavern where they make sacrifices to Moloch while discussing how to all screw Aggy, but as individuals, the state media are simply Longhorn fans at heart, which by definition makes them not A&M fans, thus the amount and kind of coverage we get.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34919 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 9:44 am to
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It's not a conspiracy, but there really isn't anybody invested in the success of an A&M football program.


That's not completely true. The national and especially SEC regional media would love to jump on our dick if only for more access to the growing Texas market. In fact I am pretty sure JFF's Heisman was partially due to those media organizations giving us coverage we never even got back in RC's era. We just have to give them something worth covering, which we haven't recently. But we aren't like a Boise where the national media openly would root against our success.

In a way JFF's Heisman is why the QBs leaving was such a huge deal. Thanks to him and the 2012 season some media organizations were still paying attention to us hoping we would give them another sensation to hype, but instead our started QBs left. That told them all "stop paying attention to us its a waste of time" and they reported as such. In say 2007 they just wouldn't have been paying attention to begin with.

If we have a good season they will all come back onboard quickly, and even without team success our guys will get a lot more draft hype/coverage than we ever got before.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:09 am to
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That's not completely true. The national and especially SEC regional media would love to jump on our dick if only for more access to the growing Texas market. In fact I am pretty sure JFF's Heisman was partially due to those media organizations giving us coverage we never even got back in RC's era. We just have to give them something worth covering, which we haven't recently. But we aren't like a Boise where the national media openly would root against our success.





Exactly this. We were the most loved program in the country in 2012 before JFF went full JFF in the offseason. He then didn't live up to the huge expectations for the 2013 season, which caused the media to turn on him and the A&M program. There's no conspiracy to keep us down.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:13 am to
Don't confuse media coverage with media support.

A&M is getting plenty of media coverage. Way more than any year in the Big 12. A&M gets very little media support. The SEC isn't making money in Texas based on ratings, they are making money based on the number of TV sets. Unlike the the LHN, ESPN doesn't need A&M to be successful to make $$$ from this venture.

Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63243 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:14 am to
Yes. When we were winning games and were a hot program in 2012 and into the offseason in 13 the media loved everything about us. But that doesn't fit the convenient narrative. Our fans don't want to admit our program has been mismanaged and want to find someone outside of it to point the finger at
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 10:14 am
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:36 am to
From an outsider's perspective...you win games and the media loves you. You lose games, have locker room issues, have assistant coaches make boneheaded tweets and the media is going to flame you for ratings.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3348 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 10:57 am to
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From an outsider's perspective...you win games and the media loves you. You lose games, have locker room issues, have assistant coaches make boneheaded tweets and the media is going to flame you for ratings.

Exactly
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 11:39 am to
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A&M is getting plenty of media coverage. Way more than any year in the Big 12. A&M gets very little media support.


This. Have no idea why you are getting down-voted, as this is absolutely true.

I don't think our resident LSU lurkers understand the dynamic in Texas, because their experience of college football is based on a state where one school reigns supreme and is therefore fundamentally different from what A&M faces.

Yes, the Louisiana media may jump all over LSU in bad times, or when coaches or players are screwing up, but they're not doing so from a position of animus against LSU. In the back of their minds, as Louisianians, they really wish LSU was doing well and may even think that in part the bashing they do is in a roundabout way helpful to that end.

Here in Texas, even if A&M is doing well, the media will only sing our praises because they are more or less forced to, and they're always giddily waiting for the other shoe to drop so they can trash us and put us back in our place. Again, it is not a matter of an organized effort; it's simply basic human nature: the reporters, writers and radio personalities in this state almost all grew up as Longhorn fans and have a personal bias they'll never overcome. Anyone who thinks they want us to be good so they can write good things about us and we just disappoint them is naive. Good news and bad news both drive clicks, listeners, and readers, so all things being equal, they'd prefer A&M be bad.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 11:40 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:28 pm to
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you win games and the media loves you. You lose games, have locker room issues, have assistant coaches make boneheaded tweets and the media is going to flame you for ratings


Pretty much boils down to this. Well said.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63243 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:00 pm to
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From an outsider's perspective...you win games and the media loves you. You lose games, have locker room issues, have assistant coaches make boneheaded tweets and the media is going to flame you for ratings.



Yup
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63243 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:01 pm to
What about all the negative reporting from the national media?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34919 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:18 pm to
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This. Have no idea why you are getting down-voted, as this is absolutely true.



Sure but it isn't just us. Its any program that isn't a blue blood.

That is why the press went after Ole Miss, or won't give Michigan St. the hype/press it deserves, or was happy to dogpile on Baylor, or mock Rutgers for ever thinking it could be a part of the B1G.

This sport is a caste system that is enforced by an army of frontrunner fans/reporters who truly believe that "college football is better when Notre Dame, Michigan, Texas, USC, etc is good." Any team that isn't part of the historical top 10 is going to face a bias when they try to raise their profile, unless that team is powered by Nike (Oregon gets a pass for some reason).
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3348 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:22 pm to
A&M should sprinkle in an actual accomplishment or two before complaining about the media "support" we receive.

Now 17 years since our last conference title.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 1:23 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63243 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:23 pm to
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A&M should sprinkle in an actual accomplishment or two before complaining about the media "support" we receive.




Yup
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
4243 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

From an outsider's perspective...you win games and the media loves you. You lose games, have locker room issues, have assistant coaches make boneheaded tweets and the media is going to flame you for ratings.


I think we do have it a bit worse, due to all the media members that adore the longhorns, but this is absolutely correct. Can't pour gasoline on a fire, especially when the team is struggling.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23143 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 8:57 pm to
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or mock Rutgers for ever thinking it could be a part of the B1G.


It's really amazing how much people love to pick on poor Rutgers anytime conference realignment is brought up.

The blueblood stuff really is tiresome. I remember last year hearing some network commentator gushing that, "it's good for college football when Michigan is good." Um, no, it's good for Michigan.

The problem is the majority of sportswriters and commentators are basically casual fans - they probably have one favorite sport but they're pretty shallow on everything else. So when it comes time for college football, the big name all-sport guys who aren't experts on CFB only know the blue bloods.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 8:59 pm
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