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re: Why is UGA being written off in the East?

Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:38 pm to
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Who knows about UNC and MO? UGA should win both. You go to Ole Miss with them 1-2 and beaten down by F$U and Bama. I think ut finally beats UF and then in the middle of UGA week realizes they should stop celebrating and prepare for UGA. It's too late. NP with SC and Vandy. Stumble against UF, maybe. UK might be the best of the last four and that is not saying much.


i like this cat
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:38 pm to
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He didn't seem that bad to me,

Upside: Doesn't make many mistakes.

Downside: That seems to be because he is petrified the entire time he's on the field.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:42 pm to
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Upside: Doesn't make many mistakes.


*that count

there were many many more balls that should have been picked that weren't.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 3:59 pm to
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there were many many more balls that should have been picked that weren't.


That's pretty much always the case though. That's why DBs aren't receivers.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 4:41 pm to
I didn't think anyone was writing them off in the east. I thought they were one of the favorites to win the east. Seems like a 3 team race to me. I find it funny that you claim UGA is being written off but then claim UF will have a hang over .
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33091 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 4:59 pm to
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don't even think it would take being a FR AA type season when you look around the east.


Agree. Just need a Murray type freshman season with better support, but easier said than done.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Sgt Deds
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:23 pm to
Cuz After 10 years of picking UGA to do something meaningful people have learned???
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40123 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 5:42 pm to
Damn, we were picked to win over Urbs and his national championship teams? Those are some high expectations.

We've really only been picked to win since Urb left UF and have won the East a few times during that span.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:26 pm to
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I find it funny that you claim UGA is being written off but then claim UF will have a hang over .


This is more about me not being sold on UT than bashing UF, and I won't be completely shocked if UF comes out strong. Still there's a few reasons I think UF takes a step back. Grier was what made that offense tick, and by tick I mean barely not suck enough to lose you the game. You also lost a 1000 yard rusher in Kelvin Taylor. The offense being worse than last year will cripple UF, and if it somehow gets better I don't think it's unfair to call that a surprise.

The front 7 will be solid but VH3 leaves a pretty big hole in the secondary. Besides Tabor UF just hasn't been bringing in a ton of DB talent recently. Maybe a few guys develop but that's a question mark.

The other big thing is what I said in the OP, I think there's a phenomenon when a new coach comes in (especially when the previous guy had a few good recruiting years) that gets players excited and has them exceed expectations a little bit. Opponents don't have film on the schemes, new coaches means no recruiting promises or grandfathered in starters, coaches may identify guys on the roster who weren't being used correctly, etc. UF experienced that last year, but I think this is the year that they come back down to earth and that lull in recruiting bites UF in the arse. Kirby on the other hand is starting with a lot of talent with fresh motivation.
Posted by Mizzou59
Mid-MO
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 7:40 pm to
I'm not writing off UGA at all. There are some studs on that roster. But I don't think they win the East in 2016 because of their QB situation. Every team thinks the true freshman QB is a God after a few good snaps of football, just ask Drew Lock and Josh Rosen. But they'll end up showing their true colors eventually. And Greyson Lambert is just a bad QB in general.

I think the defense should be good but not great. You'll probably look great against some of the awful offenses we have in the east. I don't really see anybody on that defense that I'm really worried about as an opposing offense. But I do see a bunch of good, solid players.

It would surprise me a little bit if you went to Atlanta just because of your QB situation. I think that's what's holding you back. I see 8-10 wins and a nice first year for Kirby Smart.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:02 pm to
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don't really see anybody on that defense that I'm really worried about as an opposing offense. But I do see a bunch of good, solid players.



Dominick Sanders and Trent Thompson will be standouts and hopefully Lorenzo Carter will live up to his 5 star status...the rest are good solid players as you say.


Posted by GoldenDawg
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 8:34 pm to
We lost some real playmakers on D with Floyd, Jenkins and Ganus. Replacing them with serious talent, but wouldn't surprise me to see a drop off there of some sort.

Our OL will be decent, but I'm not sure we have any true OTs, so it will not likely be an elite OL.

Sony Michel is the truth, but after that we have to hope Chubb can get and stay healthy because it's all true freshman after them (if we have to use Douglas as a mainstay we're screwed) - they have talent, but not on the same level of Michel/Chubb and Gurshall.

Our QB position is actually not as bad as you might think. Lambert won't be any worse and he does protect the ball - which is nice. If Eason can get eased in, he should make the most of a young but talented WR corps.

Our DL will be young and half will be serving suspensions in at least the first game. May take some time to truly gel, and we will need them to as soon as possible.

If Carter can stay healthy, he and Kimbrough will be solid at LB. After that we'll have some talented folks, but not all that experienced.

Our DBs should be solid.

Anyway, there are some good reasons why some have written UGA off. But it's the SECE so who knows. But yeah, Tennessee should be favored to win it and will have a lot to answer for if they don't.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:21 pm to
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I'm not writing them off. I fully expect them to beat Tenner if Chubb is healthy.


Chubb will be healthy.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:27 pm to
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who was never a coordinator under saban.

There's a difference in being a RB or TE coach under a dude and being the guy's right hand man coordinator for years.


Some people just can't get this point. Being a coordinator, especially a long-time one at a successful program (I think we can call Bama successful), is a very short step away from HC. The only basic difference is that you haven't traveled the state making speeches and kissing babies. Anyone who's been a COORDINATOR under Saban for as long as Kirby has is ready for prime time. Dooley was an underling who would have never made it as a general under Saban.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9060 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:41 pm to
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The only basic difference is that you haven't traveled the state making speeches and kissing babies. Anyone who's been a COORDINATOR under Saban for as long as Kirby has is ready for prime time.


Plenty of coordinators have done well as coaches. Plenty haven't. You can't make a blanket statement like this because nobody, not you, not me, knows whether this will be true or not. Sure he's set up to do well, many have been and failed. Not saying he will.
This post was edited on 6/28/16 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:51 pm to
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Why is UGA being written off in the East?
Cuz After 10 years of picking UGA to do something meaningful people have learned???

UGA won the east 2 times in the last 5 years...some would say that isn't meaningful, but the question was about winning the east, sarge..
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:54 pm to
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Being a coordinator, especially a long-time one at a successful program (I think we can call Bama successful), is a very short step away from HC.


That's not really true at all. I think Kirby will be good but coordinator and HC are two drastically different skillsets. HCs have to be CEOs, organizers and closers in the recruiting game, make the call on who gets offered and who doesn't, and deal with the daily headaches of keeping 19 year old kids out of jail. Coordinators have to game plan and coach, and watch the HC handle everything else. It's really kind of a gamble promoting a coordinator over an HC at a smaller school, but in this case I think Kirby has been around a great HC long enough that he won't have as steep a learning curve.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18265 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:54 pm to
Not written off, just not widely written about.

The East has been an afterthought since Tebow cried.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22635 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:07 pm to
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Why is UGA being written off in the East? by armytide373
Not written off, just not widely written about.

The East has been an afterthought since Tebow cried.



Huh?
UGA v Bama was an NC play-in game and went to the wire.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18265 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 11:15 pm to
It was unexpectedly close. Honestly, one of the best CFB games in a long time IMO.
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