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re: Did LSU fans on here forget November happened?
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What does last year have to do with this coming season?
I've been asking since page 2.
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:48 pm to CBandits82
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I've been asking since page 2.
I mean, you could point to several reasons why the previous season would have some sort of bearing on predicting the next season. Obviously the coaching staff has changed on the defensive side of the ball, but that wasn't necessarily the issue with this LSU team. It's not like the offensive woes and QB issues were all wiped away because of a new season beginning, so the previous season is definitely taken into account.
The previous season is how every single ranking is done for the first couple weeks of the next season too. That's why you see playoff and championship teams automatically highly ranked at the beginning of the season regardless of what happened in the offseason. The above is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how the previous season matters.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:49 pm to lsufball19
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i think you mean the 2014 defense. and it was. again, so your "point" was that better teams played better than bad ones against LSU. it's ok, people do that all the time on here as if it's supposed to be convincing. or would it not be expected that better teams should fare better than teams that aren't as good?
Yes, I did. My point was, LSU had a mediocre defense. Mediocre defenses generally play very well against teams they overmatch (Sun Belt teams, bad SEC teams) and don't perform as well against good offenses (the ones listed).
If the defense was elite it would be expected that they would have success against bad teams, mediocre teams and most good teams. Not necessarily all, but you would not expect an elite defense to have a very specific trend line showing a pretty large difference in performance level based on level of competition.
LSU's numbers drop relative to it's peers when you peel away the poor teams play and only compare defensive stats based on similar competition against conference schools.
That's it, and it's pretty convincing.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:52 pm to DingDongEddieStrong
Man has accomplished landing on the moon since 1963... let that sink in....
...oh and 4th and 25.
...oh and 4th and 25.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:53 pm to RazorBroncs
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It's not like the offensive woes and QB issues were all wiped away because of a new season beginning, so the previous season is definitely taken into account.
The offense is returning 10 of 11 starters and 20 off of the 2 deep. People acting like improvement is out of the question because "Hur Les Miles & Cam" need a small dose of reality.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:55 pm to RB10
Well forgive everyone else for not buying in. We have seen this before.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:57 pm to RazorBroncs
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The previous season is how every single ranking is done for the first couple weeks of the next season too
Its completely idiotic to rank a team in the first weeks.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:57 pm to RB10
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The offense is returning 10 of 11 starters and 20 off of the 2 deep. People acting like improvement is out of the question because "Hur Les Miles & Cam" need a small dose
Nobody is saying improvement is out of the question, in fact they should improve or else Miles REALLY needs to go. It's a matter of taking the starting point, i.e. where the previous season left off, and improving from there.
For the record, I think LSU will be a very dangerous team next season if they can somehow avoid a Bama loss or collapse thereafter.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:58 pm to MontyFranklyn
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everyone else for not buying in. We have seen this before.
Actually no, you haven't.
LSU has not returned this much on either side of the ball since 2011. That's kind of the point.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:01 pm to CBandits82
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Its completely idiotic to rank a team in the first weeks.
I'm gonna be honest here and I know it'll be hard to believe, but I didn't come up with the method. It is dumb and usually proves to be pretty inaccurate by season's end.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:02 pm to nc14
LSU has played Bama very tough at home in the Saban era. They beat Saban in 2010, took Bama to OT in 2008 and 2014 and blew a lead in the minute in 2012. They actually should have won all four games. I'll be shocked if the game next season turns out to be a blowout in Bama's flavor.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:04 pm to RB10
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LSU has not returned this much on either side of the ball since 2011. That's kind of the point.
Fair point, but that was also a group returning from a 2010 team that lost 2 games to the #12 and #1 teams, both on the road, by single scores.
This is a group coming off a 3 loss season in which all 3 of those losses were pretty massive beatdowns.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:05 pm to RB10
But we have seen the same emotional predictions. No one says y'all shouldn't be excited, but I completely understand why everyone thinks they have seen this movie before. You just have to go back to the two weeks leading up to the Bama game, and the disaster after. A month ago many of y'all wanted to fire your coach, now many of these same posters think you go all the way. If y'all can't see the insanity in that then there is nothing else to talk about.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:05 pm to RB10
quote:Is there a Honey Badger on this team? Or some other bad arse small African animal?
LSU has not returned this much on either side of the ball since 2011.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:06 pm to Bench McElroy
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LSU has played Bama very tough at home in the Saban era. They beat Saban in 2010, took Bama to OT in 2008 and 2014 and blew a lead in the minute in 2012. They actually should have won all four games. I'll be shocked if the game next season turns out to be a blowout in Bama's flavor.
I do worry a little bit about the fans when it comes to Bama. There was a "here we go again" feeling that fell over the crowd towards the end of the 2014 game, which will only be exacerbated in 2016. And I do think there's such a thing as wanting it too much to the point of pressing, which everyone associated with LSU has been guilty of when it comes to Bama over the last few years. I could easily see that same feeling creeping into the stands as soon as Bama gets a real or perceived "break".
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:08 pm to Opelousas Sostan
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No one says y'all shouldn't be excited,
Actually, that's exactly what the OP and several others are saying.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:10 pm to RB10
No one that's not trolling. Better? 
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:14 pm to Opelousas Sostan
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No one that's not trolling. Better
So, like 3 non-LSU fans of the 20 or so that have posted in this thread?
No, that's not really any better.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:15 pm to RB10
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The offense is returning 10 of 11 starters and 20 off of the 2 deep. People acting like improvement is out of the question because "Hur Les Miles & Cam" need a small dose of reality.
Part of the problem is a lot of LSU fans were claiming Harris was the best QB in the SEC half way through the season. I get that he was hurt so that effected his play.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:15 pm to Bench McElroy
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LSU has played Bama very tough at home in the Saban era. They beat Saban in 2010, took Bama to OT in 2008 and 2014 and blew a lead in the minute in 2012. They actually should have won all four games. I'll be shocked if the game next season turns out to be a blowout in Bama's flavor.
But all the LSU fans keep telling the Ole Miss fans last season and past seasons have no relevance to this season.
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