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Obama to Executive Order gun control in a few days ...

Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:45 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:45 pm
https://freedomoutpost.com/2015/12/obamas-planned-gun-control-regulations-to-be-incrementally-imposed-after-the-holidays/

https://www.idahostatejournal.com/members/obama-plans-executive-action-on-gun-control-soon/article_e8549274-30a5-5ffa-963d-f8379ac09bdc.html

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POCATELLO — White House communications director Jen Psaki said Dec. 18 that President Barack Obama’s planned executive action on gun control would come in “weeks, not months.”

Roll Call reported Wednesday that “senior congressional aides and sources in the gun-control community” indicate that the president will issue his executive actions after the Christmas vacation.

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest admitted that Obama’s team of lawyers have been “scrubbing through the law” to find avenues for gun control expansion, according to the Roll Call report.

Obama met with gun control proponent Michael Bloomberg earlier this month to discuss possible ways to circumvent Congress and expand gun control.

Obama’s proposed executive action would take place near the end of 2015, a year that the Washington Post said saw 294 total mass shootings. These were incidents in which four or more people were killed or injured by gunfire.

Bloomberg urged Obama to use executive action to expand background checks to cover private gun owners who sell weapons to other private gun owners and to expand background checks to cover all sales at gun shows.

Bannock County Sheriff Lorin Nielsen said that from a law enforcement perspective, he’s not sure how the law could be regulated or enforced.

Nielsen said executive action regarding gun control will serve one purpose — it will boost the sales of firearms.

“The bottom line is more people will be buying guns,” Nielsen said. “If he does this without Congress, I believe it will backfire on him.”

The sheriff said the action would also inflame factions that believe the government is trying to take away their Second Amendment right to own firearms.

Nielsen notes that recent mass shootings have taken place in no gun zones, a school, a medical clinic and a military recruitment center.

“As we become a more violent society, citizens need to learn how to protect themselves and be able to protect themselves,” Nielsen said. “Out here in the West, this is not going to help his cause and it will have a reverse effect.”

Many laws that have been enacted through executive order during the Obama presidency are currently being challenged in court, including his immigration policy. Nielsen believes gun reform laws will also stall in court.

California has some of the toughest gun laws in the country, but that didn’t stop Syed Rizwan Farook and wife Tashfeen Malik from legally obtaining firearms that they used to open fire at a holiday party in San Bernardino, killing 14 people.

California bars assault weapons, blocks the sale of large-capacity magazines and requires universal background checks for all gun purchases.

Gun owner Mark Balzer stopped in at Old Town Gunslingers on Saturday and he said he opposes background checks for the private sales of weapons.

“There are no statistics that show that it’s an issue or that background checks would impact illegal gun sales,” Balzer said.

Joe Morrell owns Old Town Gunslingers and said an executive order from Obama that enacts new gun laws will set off a firestorm in the Western states.

In Idaho, gun buyers must fill out a 4473 form, which is processed through the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The application does not list the serial number of the weapon but simply states whether it is a handgun or long gun, Morrell said.

Once the gun buyer clears the background check, information about the weapon is added to the form. If the gun is later linked to a crime, law enforcement retrieves the form from the gun seller.

“The point is to trace the gun from the time it leaves the manufacturer,” Morrell said. “Once a gun is passed privately, it’s lost, the trail ends.”

The 4473 form does not register the weapon with any entity, Morrell said, and Idaho does not currently require the weapon to be registered.

“New York requires gun owners to list and register every weapon they own, but how will that apply to collectors who might own 500 unregistered guns,” Morrell said.

Morrell said gun owners who are concerned about reselling a firearm can take it to their local gun shop and authorize the licensee to sell it and run a background check on the buyer.

“We have actually had a few people do that,” Morrell said.

The buyer’s past mental health history and criminal background is included on the form, and falsifying information is illegal.

During Obama’s two terms at the nation’s highest post, Morrell said rumors about expanded gun control laws have surfaced frequently and he’s not getting too excited about the latest news.

“If it happens, there’s not a lot I can do about it, I will comply with the law,” Morrell said. “If it does happen, boy it would be a good week, and then I wouldn’t have anything to sell and no one would be buying anything for a couple of months.”

On Dec. 21, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) introduced legislation to block Obama’s attempt to use executive action to expand gun control laws.

The Hill reported that Paul’s proposal would limit executive action to an advisory-only capacity and require a Congressional vote before the law can be enacted.

This post was edited on 12/27/15 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 5:47 pm to
How can he EO something protected by 2nd amendment?

This shite right here will equalize any nonsense Trump has done and mobilize the right.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 6:13 pm to
frick Obama
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119528 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 6:17 pm to
He can only tromp on the Constitution so much before people rise up against him, although it hasn't happened yet, but any gun control action without congressional approval and the support of the voting public will end badly for him.

So, bring it on.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 6:18 pm to
Time to boost my portfolio in gun and ammo manufacturers.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10573 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 7:06 pm to
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Circumvent Congress




What a joke this guy is.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40093 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 7:34 pm to
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Obama met with gun control proponent Michael Bloomberg earlier this month to discuss possible ways to circumvent Congress and expand gun control.


That's pretty damn scary.
Posted by The Silverback
Neptune
Member since May 2013
2036 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 7:40 pm to
4473s in Texas do in fact list the serial number as well as if it's a long gun, hand gun, or other (frames, receivers, etc.)
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21303 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 7:42 pm to
The bigger problem, 50% of this country will support him because Democrats believe in whatever the party wants.

They dare not support the Republicans, because it would be uncool.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 8:20 pm to
Is this where I left my tinfoil hat?
Posted by kirbydawg
Dalton
Member since Dec 2015
1152 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 9:13 pm to
I'm getting sick of his nonsense (PBO). If he want's to do something about gun control he needs to get all the stolen firearms out of the hood and inner cities.

He's already executive ordered out ammo imports for what fricking reason criminals steal ammo also.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 9:51 pm to
Good God obama gargles copious quantities of donkey ejaculate.
Posted by 1 Damn Good Dawg Man
Buckhead Atlanta
Member since Nov 2015
331 posts
Posted on 12/27/15 at 10:16 pm to
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Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) introduced legislation to block Obama’s attempt to use executive action to expand gun control laws.



Yet none of y'all rednecks even give the man a second look, because TRUMP, furrr durr durr durr hurrr.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5427 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:33 am to
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expand background checks to cover private gun owners who sell weapons to other private gun owners and to expand background checks to cover all sales at gun shows.


He should have to go through congress, but other than that, what exactly is wrong with the quoted proposal?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:45 am to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70945 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:31 am to
I am genuinely curious what is so bad about expanding background checks?

What is so bad about tracing a gun back to a seller?

What is so bad about at least attempting to check if someone has a history of mental health issues?

Folks are acting as though he is trampling on the Constitution. I'm no Obama advocate, but it's not as though the man is advocating kicking in doors and taking away your guns like so many like to exaggerate.
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 11:32 am
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22435 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 4:32 pm to
Frick that jug eared Kenyan. I will be so glad when he is gone.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35650 posts
Posted on 12/28/15 at 6:12 pm to
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Obama to Executive Order gun control in a few days


The NRA just came.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 2:10 pm to
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Bloomberg urged Obama to use executive action to expand background checks to cover private gun owners who sell weapons to other private gun owners
I want to see that enforced.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10377 posts
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:05 pm to
Obama kept the M1 rifles and carbines in South Korea from coming home to the US for its citizens to own so pretty much frick anything he has to say as it relates to firearms.
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