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re: 2016 Schedule Discussion
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:49 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
Posted on 10/29/15 at 1:49 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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think this is a fairly reactionary paradigm instead of an absolute. The scheduling always looks tough when you're bad/average, and easy when you're good. In 2010/2011 scheduling was "favorable" because we were good. Now it's not because we're a middle of the pack team.
Not really, and 99.5 just had a segment on it when I was coming back from lunch.
We caught Vandy during the Cutler era (loss) and then again at the high point of the Franklin era (near loss).
We scheduled USCw in '99 when they were a dumpster fire and by the time the series rolled around in '05 Carroll had built them into a dynasty.
We lost to Kentucky in '08 partly because DeAnthony Thomas soaked his gloves in melted butter before the game and partly because UK had Randall Cobb when he looked like a Heisman candidate.
USCe's high point came during the absolute low point of our program, and the very year we trade them out for Mizzou they fall back in the gutter while Mizzou goes on to win the East.
We caught Florida during their worst year era, but it also happened to coincide with our worst year ever, and of course that game was in Gainesville.
Quite literally the only time our schedule has worked out for us in the last decade on the front end was when we caught Tennessee during both the Dooley and Butch eras.
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 2:07 pm to swhog355
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I mean we always play lsu good and have played Alabama well the past 2 seasons. You shouldn't be worried with pro style teams as much as spread teams as long as beilamas here. He knows how to stop a pro style attack. Not so much with the spread.
I don't think we can beat Fournette. If he were to get injured (not that I'm hoping for this) then I could see us beating LSU.
I don't see Bielema beating Bama ever. Over the past couple of years, we've slowed the games against certain pro style teams down to a crawl and limited possessions in a way that prevented them from ever getting in rhythm.
I think it has created an illusion that we were more competitive than we actually were in certain games.
It's analogous to a boxing match where one boxer has superior ability and punching power. The outmatched fighter can make the outcome look competitive by running around the ring the whole match. He will stay on his feet the entire fight and he might win a few rounds by making the other fighter look sloppy - but in reality, he never had the ability to deliver a knockout punch.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:41 pm to ArCoRazorback
when the frick do we get to play fricking Vandy or Scar? really we get some of the tougher east opponents 4 fricking years in a row.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:43 pm to The Sultan of Swine
we out played bama last year and should have won. that team just wasn't ready to win.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 3:58 pm to Porker Face
I like the schedule.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 4:10 pm to Feral
DeAnthony Curtis
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Butterfingers name
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 10/29/15 at 4:53 pm to The Sultan of Swine
with better players and a redshirt program we will beat bama occasionally
with petrino ball or any other spread style, we would never beat bama.
with petrino ball or any other spread style, we would never beat bama.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 5:02 pm to Feral
The issue is none of the programs you just mentioned were ever really bad at the same point in time except SCAR, UK, and Vandy. If you look at a time line of those team's competitiveness they won't all overlap to the positive side when playing Arkansas. This year we got 4th Q derp Jones Tennessee and pre-Brad Smith bad Mizzou as our eastern opponents. We get lucky sometimes too.
As fans, we'll tend to focus on the upswings of our opponents rather than the downswings.
As fans, we'll tend to focus on the upswings of our opponents rather than the downswings.
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 10/29/15 at 5:27 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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The issue is none of the programs you just mentioned were ever really bad at the same point in time except SCAR, UK, and Vandy. If you look at a time line of those team's competitiveness they won't all overlap to the positive side when playing Arkansas. This year we got 4th Q derp Jones Tennessee and pre-Brad Smith bad Mizzou as our eastern opponents. We get lucky sometimes too.
As fans, we'll tend to focus on the upswings of our opponents rather than the downswings.
But that's my point - our non-permanent opponents' upswings always tend to coincide with scheduling us. That's a fact for the reasons and examples given in my earlier post.
Vandy was a conference doormat and then hits an upswing the very year(s) they played us. Same for Kentucky with the exception of 2012. Same for USCe in that their high point coincided with our lowpoint, and their ensuing lowpoint was a mute point because they'd fallen off our schedule.
Inversely, we caught Florida at the lowest point in their program's history, yet it also happened to coincide with the worst season in our program's history. The one year they were extremely beatable, we just happened to be even worse.
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 10/29/15 at 5:36 pm to Feral
The obvious answer is we sold our program's soul to a dark ancient evil to win our national title and are now suffering the torments of the darned. Not the damned, just the darned.
This is a pretty loaded schedule... TCU is no joke and LA Tech is one of those Toledo like teams that can sneak in and beat you if you aren't careful. The good news is we can at least point to our schedule and say we aren't scared to mix it up with top schools.
This is a pretty loaded schedule... TCU is no joke and LA Tech is one of those Toledo like teams that can sneak in and beat you if you aren't careful. The good news is we can at least point to our schedule and say we aren't scared to mix it up with top schools.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 5:58 pm to ArCoRazorback
So we get Florida for a second time already under the new scheduling system before we even get Kentucky or Vandy once. Seems about right for us. 
Posted on 10/29/15 at 6:20 pm to Arksulli
Would have made more sense to have La Tech in Little Rock, they would have brought many more fans to LR since it would be an easy day trip for them. Would have more Hog fans show up to LR to see LaTech than Alcorn too. WTF are we even scheduling Alcorn for anyway?
Posted on 10/29/15 at 6:24 pm to TheCheshireHog
I think we will be pretty solid next season. Depending on departures of course.
If we return Kirkland, Ragnow, Skipper on the Oline...Henry and Sprinkle at the TE's...get Reed, Morgan, Cornelius back at WR...have Walker, possibly Collins back at RB along with a healthy RWIII...the offense should be stacked...
Im of the belief Collins will stay for his senior year...Not sure on Kirkland...but Wallace can fill in there.
Look, I like the schedule. I think it sets up well for us, minus playing 9 consecutive weeks.
If we return Kirkland, Ragnow, Skipper on the Oline...Henry and Sprinkle at the TE's...get Reed, Morgan, Cornelius back at WR...have Walker, possibly Collins back at RB along with a healthy RWIII...the offense should be stacked...
Im of the belief Collins will stay for his senior year...Not sure on Kirkland...but Wallace can fill in there.
Look, I like the schedule. I think it sets up well for us, minus playing 9 consecutive weeks.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 6:31 pm to TheCheshireHog
2018 and 2019 of course we got the toughest ones first from the east
Posted on 10/29/15 at 6:31 pm to Hawgeye
If we are finally going to beat Florida, having them come up here after a bye week for us in November... It is hard to ask for better conditions to pull off a win.
God willing there will snow up to everyone's arse for the game and sleeting rain.
God willing there will snow up to everyone's arse for the game and sleeting rain.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 7:30 pm to TheCheshireHog
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So we get Florida for a second time already under the new scheduling system before we even get Kentucky or Vandy once. Seems about right for us.
By the past logic of the schedule, we should be playing Vandy at home next year followed by @UK, then SCAR at home.
But instead, Florida jumps ahead.
frick you SEC...
Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:21 pm to DaleDenton
Hopefully we take SEC officials to ref the game at TCU...I know we did for Lubbock
These refs are horrible. 5 penalties on WVu on 3rd downs that were not originally converted by TCU in the first half.
These refs are horrible. 5 penalties on WVu on 3rd downs that were not originally converted by TCU in the first half.
Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:23 pm to Hawgeye
With that schedule, I'm sure Curles will also be our ref for the the entire season.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 9:01 am to ArCoRazorback
These home conference games are going to be so intense. I always love to watch LSU come to Fayetteville. 
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:48 am to BennyAndTheInkJets
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As fans, we'll tend to focus on the upswings of our opponents rather than the downswings.
I respectfully disagree. I first noticed it around 10 years ago, but actually think our SEC-E rotation has been a little better over the past 5 years or so.
However, I recently summed the records of all our SEC-E opponents since '92, only in the years we played them, and our opponents had the 2nd highest winning percentage for SEC-W teams. Auburn's SEC-E opponents had the highest winning percentage, mostly because they played Georgia and Florida every year until 2003. IIRC, Alabama and Ole Miss were the lowest and were both sub-500 collectively.
LSU's wasn't much lower then ours, but they've played Florida every year, while we played South Carolina, so you'd think theirs would be higher, unless we just caught more teams on the way up.
When they changed the schedule rotation in 2003, I think we'd just played Florida and Georgia, so I was looking forward to playing Vandy and Kentucky. Instead, we played Florida and Georgia again, which is part of the reason why we've played Vandy and Kentucky less then anyone in the SEC-W.
It may be nitpicking, but our conference schedule has slyly been one of the toughest in the SEC and I think that has played the biggest role in why we always have one of the top SOS in the conference. Auburn chose to play a tough conference schedule, but since '92, I think our conference schedule has been the 2nd toughest in the entire SEC.
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