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The Tunsil thing is strange...
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:15 am
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:15 am
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In practice, the NCAA has handed down only two four-game suspensions to high-profile football players in the past five years, both from Georgia. In 2010, A.J. Green was forced to sit out the Bulldogs’ first four games after selling a jersey for $1,000, and last year Todd Gurley was docked four games at midseason for accepting $3,000 in cash over two years in exchange for autographs. In both of those cases, the NCAA formally announced the duration of the suspensions and set firm return dates after the first game served.
If necessary, the bylaws also give the reinstatement staff the authority to turn the screws a little tighter if it sees fit (emphasis added):
In addition, in cases where the impermissible prize money greatly exceeds $700, the committee directed the reinstatement staff to consider whether additional withholding, including permanent ineligibility, is appropriate.
The most recent high-profile case in which that clause applied involved the four Ohio State players (including quarterback Terrelle Pryor) who were docked five games apiece to open the 2011 season as punishment for selling championship rings, jerseys, and other memorabilia and for receiving discounted tattoos.
In that case, the fifth game was tacked on in exchange for allowing the suspended players to play in Ohio State’s next game, which happened to be the 2010 Sugar Bowl; the Buckeyes preferred to sit for an additional game the following fall, rather than miss a BCS bowl. The sanctions were announced publicly, more than eight months before they were served.3
Earlier in 2010, there was also the wide-ranging scandal that rocked North Carolina, in which 13 players were held out of the season opener for various violations. Of those 13, three (future draft picks Marvin Austin, Greg Little, and Robert Quinn) were eventually declared ineligible and booted from the team for allegedly accepting more than $5,000 apiece from agents and lying to investigators. Among the remaining players, the most severe suspension was given to cornerback Kendric Burney, who lost six games for allegedly accepting $1,333 from the same former UNC player who paid $1,000 for A.J. Green’s jersey. Again, Burney’s suspension (among others) was announced after two games. The following year, fallout from the Nevin Shapiro scandal at Miami resulted in a six-game suspension for defensive end Olivier Vernon, alleged recipient of $1,200 worth of meals, transportation, and so forth. His penalty, along with lesser Shapiro-related suspensions for teammates, was announced before the 2011 season opener.
The amount of money in those cases varies pretty significantly, as long as you ignore that even on the high end $5,000 doesn’t amount to life-changing graft. (We’re definitely operating on the scale of what college kids who have never had a real job think of as a lot of money.) What they all have in common is a relatively fast turnaround: Not one of the players mentioned above missed more than two games before he learned his fate. You could even argue that that’s two games too many.
What sets Tunsil’s case apart, and what makes it so maddening for everyone involved, isn’t just that he’s a headlining talent on a team with playoff potential, or that his absence has already surpassed all but the decade’s most egregious offenders over what seems like a fairly pedestrian violation. It’s the waiting.
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There's a good Grantland article about the Tunsil saga.
Long story short: he's already sat out longer than most athletes who received large illegal benefits, and there are no other cases that were handled with so much secrecy.
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 8:16 am
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:16 am to Hugh McElroy
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Long story short: he's already sat out longer than most athletes who received large illegal benefits, and there are no other cases that were handled with so much secrecy.
Death Penalty
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:18 am to Hugh McElroy
The NCAA has clear evidence that we facilitated ritualistic killings by Laremy.
We're screwed.
We're screwed.
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 8:19 am
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:18 am to Hugh McElroy
There are a lot that were more secret.
R. Robinson didn't play after ole miss game last year and we never got an answer about that. Team rules bull shite.
R. Robinson didn't play after ole miss game last year and we never got an answer about that. Team rules bull shite.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:18 am to Hugh McElroy
It has been strange.
I imagine the NCAA is holding this close to the vest as is Ole Miss.
I imagine the NCAA is holding this close to the vest as is Ole Miss.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:30 am to Hugh McElroy
The difference is a big university with lots of NCAA clout - see OSU or North Carolina, etc. versus Ole Miss or a Mizzou.
Anyone who thinks there's equity in how cases are handled by the NCAA is fooling themselves.
Anyone who thinks there's equity in how cases are handled by the NCAA is fooling themselves.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:31 am to Hugh McElroy
He'll never play another snap in college.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:32 am to Hugh McElroy
Perhaps there's more to it than Laremy getting to drive a car for an extra week.
Bo Scarbrough was suspended for 4 games for violations that occurred during his recruitment, violations that were not committed by Alabama. Guess who thought they were getting Bo late in the game.
You reap what you sow.
Bo Scarbrough was suspended for 4 games for violations that occurred during his recruitment, violations that were not committed by Alabama. Guess who thought they were getting Bo late in the game.
You reap what you sow.
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 8:32 am
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:36 am to Hugh McElroy
If he doesn't play after the 6th game he will most likely leave school and concentrate on the draft. i don't think the issue is with the rental car anymore it's the agents.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 9:17 am to Hugh McElroy
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He'll never play another snap in college.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 9:31 am to Hugh McElroy
The fact that ole miss is meekly taking this instead of taking the auburn cam newton route indicates that there is much more to this than what we know from the news story.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 10:14 am to Hugh McElroy
I can't really say I blame them. If the NCAA gets a bug up its arse and wants to make an example of Ole Miss, they'll vacate anything he played in this season if they find anything concrete.
The bigger issue is you mean to tell me with the money the NCAA makes that they can't afford a compliance department that can make a quicker decision than this?
The bigger issue is you mean to tell me with the money the NCAA makes that they can't afford a compliance department that can make a quicker decision than this?
Posted on 10/9/15 at 10:15 am to Hugh McElroy
The suckiest college town in the SEC mixed with a bottom-tier university, anyone with a pulse could tell you Old Mrs. (a fallback school for recruiting rejects) is coming out of pocket to be relevant in football again.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 10:16 am to Hugh McElroy
The ncaa is corrupt and deserves to burn
Posted on 10/9/15 at 10:40 am to Hugh McElroy
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:11 am to Hugh McElroy
Has it been pointed out that the ncaa isn't the one suspending Tunsil as of now?
Posted on 10/9/15 at 1:20 pm to Hugh McElroy
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The most recent high-profile case in which that clause applied involved the four Ohio State players (including quarterback Terrelle Pryor) who were docked five games apiece to open the 2011 season as punishment for selling championship rings, jerseys, and other memorabilia and for receiving discounted tattoos.
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