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re: Is Freeze The New Saban?
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:39 pm to GwoodReb28
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:39 pm to GwoodReb28
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He is better than Saban, better than Johnny Vaught and definitely better than that dumb arse Bear Bryant. Bama fans can get used to the arse kicking because it will continue.
This is the reason why Ole Miss has the worst fricking fan base in the SEC. You have a little success and now you think your team is unbeatable and the top dog. Keep in mind, Alabama did give 5 turn overs (not to mention it should have been 7 turn overs), but... stayed in the game until the forth quarter. Having not one, but two opportunities to win this football game that they didn't capitalize on. Freeze is not even on the same level as Saban and he could only dream of being like Bear. GTFO.
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:39 pm to DeltaDoc
Bitch please.......
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:53 pm to DeltaDoc
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He is recruiting at an elite level
He did this for one year
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:57 pm to inelishaitrust
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You try to use that against us in recruiting, and it'll backfire on you as soon as that recruit steps foot on campus.
then why is your fan base still consumed with your supposed racist image?
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:18 pm to Daviskenn
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Let me ask you a question: If Bama played OSU on Saturday night in Tuscaloosa and lost the turnover battle 5-0, do you think OSU only beats Bama by 6?
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Sad excuses
Not an excuse, grandpa. Someone said that OM was the best team in the country. I disagree. They were certainly the best team in BDS saturday night, but my point was that if OSU had that same turnover advantage (5-0) and had fields of 17, 18, 26, and 31 yards to work with that they (OSU) would have won by more than 6 points. It was saying that OSU is still the best team in the country...but you continue with the narrative that Bama fans are "butthurt" and "melting" if that's gonna make you feel better.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:24 pm to bamasgot13
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Let me ask you a question: If Bama played OSU on Saturday night in Tuscaloosa and lost the turnover battle 5-0, do you think OSU only beats Bama by 6?
I'd say there's possibly several teams that would win comfortably against 'Bama given those turnover stats. It was a great, deserved win for Ole Miss, but the talk I've seen from some that they dominated the Tide is absurd. 'Bama's not going away by any stretch and Saban is still the best HC in the country, much less the SEC.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:27 pm to GwoodReb28
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He is better than Saban, better than Johnny Vaught and definitely better than that dumb arse Bear Bryant. Bama fans can get used to the arse kicking because it will continue.
Some of you guys are out of control now.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:29 pm to rammerfinjammer
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he could only dream of being like Bear. GTFO
Freeze is a good christian man. Don't compare him to that alcoholic.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:34 pm to rammerfinjammer
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He is better than Saban, better than Johnny Vaught and definitely better than that dumb arse Bear Bryant. Bama fans can get used to the arse kicking because it will continue.
This is the reason why Ole Miss has the worst fricking fan base in the SEC.
The guy has 35 posts he is obviously an alter. I think most (not all) Ole Miss fans have reacted to this win with class.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:36 pm to bamasgot13
OSU also only beat Northern Illinois by 7 points they are not nearly as good as they were last year.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:03 pm to WithaRebelYell
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OSU also only beat Northern Illinois by 7 points they are not nearly as good as they were last year.
I hate OSU, but I'll give them their due. Their game against NIU was almost the opposite of the Bama/OM game. They gave up 5 turnovers. NIU went a total of 30 yards on O to get those 10 points.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:10 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
What does saban having coached at Michigan state for a few years prior to LSU have to do with how fast he dominated here, and then how fast he dominated at Alabama.
We'll talk when freeze has just 1 of the following: national title, sec title, #1 recruiting class. Because saban had ALL three within 4 seasons at both LSU and Bama.
You are right it is unfair to compare hugh freeze to nick saban.
Freeze may very we'll be a great coach (maybe a miles or a richt). But do I think he will absolutely dominate recruiting and championships at multiple schools for the next 15 years? No. Beating saban doesn't make you saban. If that were the case there would be 20+ saban/Meyer caliber coaches all over the place.
We'll talk when freeze has just 1 of the following: national title, sec title, #1 recruiting class. Because saban had ALL three within 4 seasons at both LSU and Bama.
You are right it is unfair to compare hugh freeze to nick saban.
Freeze may very we'll be a great coach (maybe a miles or a richt). But do I think he will absolutely dominate recruiting and championships at multiple schools for the next 15 years? No. Beating saban doesn't make you saban. If that were the case there would be 20+ saban/Meyer caliber coaches all over the place.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:11 pm to bamasgot13
They still only scored 20 points
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:31 pm to silenth69
What's hilarious is he didn't even know anything about basketball when the school offered him the position as well as football coach.
He learned schemes and developed an up tempo offense in women's basketball... As a hobby he won championships in a game he had no prior knowledge of schemes and plays
He learned schemes and developed an up tempo offense in women's basketball... As a hobby he won championships in a game he had no prior knowledge of schemes and plays
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:47 pm to Lsuchs
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But do I think he will absolutely dominate recruiting and championships at multiple schools for the next 15 years? No
I agree with you about the multiple school thing; it wouldn't surprise me at all for Hugh to be at Ole Miss 15 years from now. Laugh if you want, but HC at Ole Miss has always been his destination dream job.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 4:48 pm to WithaRebelYell
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They still only scored 20 points
they had 5 turnovers, changed QBs, gave it up 2 times in the red zone and scored 20. Bama had 5 turnovers, changed QBs, gave it up 4 times from the 31 and in, and scored 37 with 500+ yards. You are trying to use transitive property, which absolutely doesn't work in college football. I'm simply saying I don't think OM is the best team in the country. It's not a knock. Right now, you are playing like a top 5 team.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 5:11 pm to bamasgot13
Ole Miss isn't the best team in the SEC West and my words will be vindicated. I know we all like to talk shite but the season is young and teams are still hashing out their personnel, injuries will happen, etc., etc. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I saw no improvement in this Ole Miss team from last year's Ole Miss team.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 5:41 pm to TeeteringBrink
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I agree with you about the multiple school thing; it wouldn't surprise me at all for Hugh to be at Ole Miss 15 years from now. Laugh if you want, but HC at Ole Miss has always been his destination dream job.
I'm not laughing at freeze or ole miss I promise you. I even said I wouldn't be shocked if he had les miles/richt type success. I don't think he will but of course I can't say he won't. I'm not saying he leaves ole miss either.
I'm simply saying the comparison between him and saban is way way too soon. He hasn't reached success in any area in his 3 years at ole miss yet that saban did at two seperate stops in 3 years. I mean how many coaches have a 9 win season and one top 5 class in a 3 year stretch? Should we anoint them all the next GOAT?
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 9/21/15 at 5:44 pm to Lsuchs
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What does saban having coached at Michigan state for a few years prior to LSU have to do with how fast he dominated here, and then how fast he dominated at Alabama.
Because it takes time to learn on the job as a college head coach. Just because Freeze made it to the SEC quicker than Saban did, doesn't mean that Freeze should be where Saban was when he was in his fourth year at LSU.
I don't know how far along Ole Miss will be in five years (presumably with Freeze at the helm) but I don't think it's safe or fair to compare them just yet.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 5:45 pm to DeltaDoc
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When LSU hired Saban, most were questioning the hire, and frankly, wondering who the heck he was in many cases. Saban turned LSU around, won the SEC and eventually a national title in very quick fashion.
Saban also showed that he could recruit very well.
When Freeze was hired by OM after the recommendation of their hiring committee, which included Archie, most peopled laughed. It seemed absurd.
Fast forward three years and Freeze is the coach of arguably the best team in the country and the likely front-runner to win the SEC. He is recruiting at an elite level and will possibly have three of more NFL first rounders this spring.
Finally, OM has beat Saban and Alabama two years in a row and seemed to be the better coached and more talented team Saturday night.
As bizarre as it sounds, is Hugh Freeze the "new" Nick Saban of the SEC?
Unless OM learns to run the ball, they will do the same thing they did last year.
They aren't going to win the turnover battle +5 every week. When they get into a situation where they have to run the ball, they are toast.
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