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Some random thought on the offense.

Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:04 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:04 pm
Some things I would try in the running game.

Scrap the pistol. We aren't getting anything out of that formation on the ground. We've been really bad between the tackles.

Use more pulling OL in the run game. We've been succesful with this in the past. It naturally creates more holes in the defense as opposed to trying to push the DL out of the way you get them moving. You could also add a read in there where the QB could get out the backside of the play if the DE crashes.

Move McGovern back to guard. As mentioned above we are really struggling getting any kind of push up the middle. He's the best guard on the team. At least try it and see what Cuellar or Rhodes look like at tackle.

Find a way to get Wingo more involved. He's the fastest guy we have and if we are going to struggle executing down the field we need to start creating some more chunk plays. He needs to get a shot at returning punts.

I'd also institute some one read throws for Mauk early in the game where the ball comes out quick and he doesn't have to think. Pop passes to the TE and clear out routes which open up slants and outs would be effective. This would also get him looking at the short pass and more importantly the middle of the field.

Slow the pace. Run the most easily executed plays you have and simplify the gameplan. We have a great defense. Help them out with time of possession and field position and we can win games that way.
This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 8:15 pm
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
17096 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:06 pm to
Agreed
Posted by MizBob
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2012
1160 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:52 pm to
I cannot believe they only gave Wingo one carry yesterday.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127673 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:45 pm to
Didn't Abbington only get one carry, too?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:59 pm to
Not sure about his carries but I don't remember seeing him after he dropped the ball that hit him in the wrong place...his hands.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:10 pm to
The drop was on the first drive. Abbington had 2 or 3 runs later in the game the first went for about 12-13 yards. Seems like he run up the middle for nothing (shocker nothing up the middle has worked) and maybe had a run to the right.

Wingo's run was actually a pass. Thought he might get more playing time with Blair/Dilosa out. If the accident happens on Tuesday that might have been the case.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:20 pm to
I did see Abbington lower his shoulder to lay a hit on someone. That was encouraging.

Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:34 pm to
Just such a strange year.

Of the top 5 rushing yards:

1 is the QB
1 is a walkon
1 has 3 carries (Abbington's yards per should get him more touches)

Of our top 5 receiving yards:

2 are RB's
1 is a TE
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:42 pm to
Just looking at some numbers:

Mauk is averaging about 14 yards per series he leads.
Lock is averaging about 30 yards per series he leads.

Blair/Richard/Laurent/Reese/Hall/Wingo have all been non-factors/disappointments. Not blaming the player. Could be the plays. Could be lack of field time. But just guys I was really expecting more from, especially against high school teams.

Hunt is probably our best RB at this point and that says something. Running Witter up the middle is like the Rams running Austin up the middle. Like I said earlier, Abbington probably should get more touches (6.3 y/c in just a few touches). Steward's done very little with his opportunities (1.8 y/c).

For being a supposed gunslinger, will Mauk ever break 200 yards?

Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3131 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:20 am to
Total SEC QBR Leaders. 127 total QB's rated.

1- Chad Kelly OM 92.3
2- Brandon Harris LSU 90.7
5- Greyson Lambert UGA 89.6
21- Dak Prescott MSST 78.5
24- Brandon Allen ark 77.9
28- Jake Coker UA 76.4
41- Kyle Allen aTm 69.2
66- Joshua Dobbs tenny 53.9
74- Will Grier fla 52.7
79- Patrick Towles UK 51.4
90- Maty Mauk Miz 44.7
98- Jeremy Johnson Aub 42.3
111- Johnny McCrary Vand 36.7
USCe is not rated.

117- Fredi Knighten ArSt 30.8
65- Bryant Shirreffs Conn 54.1

This rating accounts for running and scrambling which has been MM's so called strength. Based upon this rating he is below average to-date at his position against our OOC competition.

Yes, the OL is a hot-burning dumpster fire mess. But MM has not progressed from last year. I think he has plateaued. I do not believe that he makes reads effectively. I would like to see Lock and maybe others get more reps.

Corrected score just coming through...Mizzou 9 - Mauk 6. UConn's only points came off MM's INT.

Through 3 OOC games, the stat of the year so far...Total Rushing TD's - 1. ONE! The two yard keeper by MM vs. UConn. That's against SEMO, Ark State and UConn gents.

HCGP, Henson and Ricker are not doing their jobs. IF I was to boo anyone, it would be the coaches and not the players. They recruited/trained these athletes.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 12:46 pm
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:15 am to

I really think we've been seeing some very generic plays. Doesn't excuse bad play though. I'll be highly disappointed if they don't script better plays and be more aggressive this weekend.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3131 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:43 am to
quote:

jafo: I really think we've been seeing some very generic plays. Doesn't excuse bad play though. I'll be highly disappointed if they don't script better plays and be more aggressive this weekend.


I agree jafo. My guess is that the coaches felt that we should have been able to dominate the OL against SEMO and Ark State. We did not. So, they worked on the OL during the week and tried again to win the "push" against UConn. We did not. RB's are not the major problem. Ya gotta block first, and Mizzou's OL is just not getting the job done.

ONE RUSH TD in three OOC games!!! If the OOC competition had been tOSU, MSU and USCw...I would somewhat accept it.
Posted by IlliniBuck
Member since Apr 2015
358 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:25 pm to
I hope we see more Ray Wingo. He catches the ball.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30105 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:32 pm to
Just watching two games on TV and attending the UCONN game two things are very clear to me. The offensive issues really fall on the OL and the WR. Im not sure that it matters which QB is taking snaps until those two things addressed/rectified. WR are running rounded routes, nothing crisp, no separation and dominated off the line at the snap. The OL just looks lost especially during rushing plays and that is a head scratcher to me honestly. You can have a bad pass protect line that can run block down hill. We have neither at this point. Just my two cents.

This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 8:33 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:55 pm to
I actually thought the OL looked better. Especially in pass pro. Run blocking still has a ways to go, but there were also some holes our backs have been missing.

I'm no scout though.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30105 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

I'm no scout though.


Me either brother. Have not watched the replay of the UCONN game yet so Im only judging that on what I witnessed from the seats. I will happily take your word for it that pass pro looked better. Sometimes its hard to tell with Mauk bailing out of the pocket so much.



Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:37 pm to
More on the OL. I think Ricker pretty much stated that they don't trust any of our other guys playing tackle. They realize McGovern is a better guard, and he wants to play guard but they also feel he's the best tackle we have.

I think Cuellar not being ready to go has really thrown a wrench in their plans. He was an EE too.

@DavidCMorrison: A.J. Ricker said Connor McGovern "is playing at a high level at left tackle. I wish things were maybe different and he could play guard."

@DavidCMorrison: Ricker: "We need him out there. Maybe some more depth where he could play, he knows he's a guard. He's doing what's best for this team."
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 9:44 pm
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:15 pm to
WR was a known issue coming into the year. OL not so much. Either need to get Hansbrough back and healthy or one of the other backs to take some steps forward.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

Scrap the pistol. We aren't getting anything out of that formation on the ground. We've been really bad between the tackles.



Completely agree. Might get better with Hans, but should never ever even contemplate it with Witter and company.

quote:

Move McGovern back to guard. As mentioned above we are really struggling getting any kind of push up the middle. He's the best guard on the team. At least try it and see what Cuellar or Rhodes look like at tackle.



Would love to see this but apparently just isn't going to happen. Some wasted scholarships it would appear.
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
2184 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:11 pm to
I thought the pass blocking looked good too. I also agree with the above who think Hunt is our best RB. This offense is not as bad as it has appeared and has plenty of up side. It may be too late in the season to change run blocking schemes, but short passes to the running backs may make the best use of their talents anyway. Changing up the play selection would be much simpler than an entire scheme overhaul.
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