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This sums up Lyle Jones perfectly

Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:11 pm
Posted by NorthGAVol
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Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:11 pm
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Enough.

Enough with checkering Neyland. Enough with the coach-speak and sales pitches. Enough with the public relations and the excuses. Tennessee football needs to win games.
Yesterday was yet another episode in a long string of soul-crushing losses for the Vols, but this one felt different. We all saw what this squad could really be. UT was the better team and they still didn’t win and this seemed to have exposed Butch Jones and his staff to the fan base in ways they hadn’t been before. You could see cracks in the facade of Jones’ shiny exterior for the first time.


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Butch talks a lot, but so far, Butch hasn’t won a lot.

And that’s fine, he was tasked with dredging up a sunken ship. In some ways he’s done a fine job putting the pieces back together for Vol football. Recruiting hasn’t been this successful at Tennessee since the late 90’s and UT’s marketing efforts and the perception of the team are the best they’ve been in more than a decade. But last night, the coaching was bad and it resulted in a monumental meltdown.


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Often the offensive play calling was horrifyingly conservative. No example of this is more telling than on the Vols very first drive against Oklahoma when Jones was faced with a 4th and 1 at OU’s goal line and he elected to kick a field goal. (Coincidentally, a touchdown would have won Tennessee the game in regulation) With Jalen Hurd, one of the best power running backs in America, in the backfield, UT settled for a field goal at the goal line… I don’t even want to hear the rationale there, go for the touchdown.
And when Jones was questioned about the decision at his press conference after the game, he had no remorse. Not even a “maybe we should have tried to go for it but we can’t change it now.” The decision was made so it must have been the right decision.


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This is not what the fans want to hear after a heartbreaking loss from a coach who so far has done nothing but talk a big game. In this situation, fans want the coaches to take all the blame and say they’ll change and do better next week. Start winning games and then your decisions won’t be questioned at post game press conferences. At this point, Vol fans don’t want their coach to not second guess his decisions. They want vulnerability and genuine discourse, not manufactured statements. And they just want wins.
All of this grief could go away if Tennessee would simply win football games. This coaching staff has asked a lot of fans. They’ve asked for unwavering support, endless engagement, clothing color coordination, and tons and tons of money, and all UT patrons have gotten in return is a win over Iowa in a bowl game and sorrow.


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Enough is enough.

Fans have given their all for Tennessee. They’ve come to the games, yelled at the top of their lungs, paid for the shirts and tickets, and bought into Butch Jones’ sales pitch. Now it’s time for Butch to drop the salesman act and provide the product he’s been promising. And that’s not to say Vol supporters are expecting an SEC Championship this year, they just don’t want a total implosion against a less-talented Oklahoma team.

A win at Florida in two weeks is nothing short of an iron-clad must-win game. If Butch Jones cannot beat the Gators, supporters will disengage, walk away, and mutter the all too familiar phrase “maybe next year” because they’ve been sold a product that has not been delivered. The time is now for Butch Jones and Tennessee’s football program to give the people what they really want. Not gray jerseys, not gimmicks or the promise of a new Tennessee at some unspecified time in the future.

Just give the people wins.

Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:12 pm to
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You could see cracks in the facade of Jones’ shiny exterior for the first time.




lol
Posted by BugaPainTrain7
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2014
11567 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:12 pm to
I read the first quote then gave up way to long
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145261 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:13 pm to
i am enjoying this
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40954 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:13 pm to
Lol I hate him so much.

Cliches and excuses are the foundation of whatever it is he's trying to do here.

He is a miserable frick that I don't find likeable in the least. No idea how so many VOLS fans fell for his schtick.

Has absolutely zero personality.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24633 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:13 pm to
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You could see cracks in the facade of Jones’ shiny exterior for the first time.




double lol
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:14 pm to
I thought we were e-bros 4 lyfe, brah? Lol
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40954 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:14 pm to
Also he is a terrible coach.

Very good recruiter. Terrible personality. Terrible coach.

All three were blatantly obvious very early in his tenure.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37915 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:14 pm to
Y'all gave volfan30 so much shite, and now appear to be in complete agreement with him. Funny how that works.

Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:17 pm to
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Lol I hate him so much.

Cliches and excuses are the foundation of whatever it is he's trying to do here.

He is a miserable frick that I don't find likeable in the least. No idea how so many VOLS fans fell for his schtick.

Has absolutely zero personality.


He is cheesy as frick but I never thought he would be such a fricking pussy. I remember thinking he might be a hell of a coach during the 2013 UGA game when he made ballsy call after ballsy call.

Nope. He is worse than Fulmer post 1998.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145261 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:18 pm to
we still are
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

Cliches and excuses are the foundation of whatever it is he's trying to do here.

He is a miserable frick that I don't find likeable in the least. No idea how so many VOLS fans fell for his schtick.

Has absolutely zero personality.
this.
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:19 pm to
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Y'all gave volfan30 so much shite, and now appear to be in complete agreement with him. Funny how that works.



I agree with him more than most Tennessee fans OTB. I do have a homer tendency but I can see the real Lyle now that my big orange glasses are removed.
Posted by Wet Works
Anywhere the money be
Member since Sep 2015
627 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:20 pm to
You forgot the fumble and TD the zebras took away from Oklahoma..in regukation
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37915 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:20 pm to
The best thing y'all could do is tank the rest of the season and hire Justin Fuente before anyone else does. He would wreck shite at UT
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42578 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:20 pm to
The next guy should have enough to work with.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14420 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:21 pm to
They fricking tackled our DT on that pass if that's the TD you're referring to. If they didn't call holding there then they shouldn't have ever called it. It was egregious
This post was edited on 9/13/15 at 5:22 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46599 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:23 pm to
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I remember thinking he might be a hell of a coach during the 2013 UGA game when he made ballsy call after ballsy call.


He had nothing to lose and UGA was about as crippled as could be. He would have been a fool not to go for the throat.

Now that there's some actual expectation to win at least 8 games, he's holding his hand and choking.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5156 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:26 pm to
Y'all did a 180 on him fast, but I get it. I remember thinking Shula might be the answer after the 10-2 Cotton Bowl campaign in 2005, then agreeing with his firing in 2006.
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 9/13/15 at 5:26 pm to
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He had nothing to lose and UGA was about as crippled as could be. He would have been a fool not to go for the throat. Now that there's some actual expectation to win at least 8 games, he's holding his hand and choking.


That's the only time he knows how to be aggressive..when the deck is stacked and he's in a no lose situation.

He does not have a clue how to coach when Tennessee doesn't have the underdog parachute to fall back with.
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