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re: Princeton Review: Acceptance and graduation rates for SEC schools

Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:54 am to
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:54 am to
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Auburn the easiest school to get into

Heard right here on the rant if you couldn't get into UGA you couldn't get into AU. 100% of the kids I know prove otherwise. But that fella was convinced. Pretty sure it was Phan


Far be it for me to come to the defense of Auburn...

It's a good school. It may have a high acceptance rate, but that doesn't necessarily make it "easy" to get into. There's plenty of potential mitigating factors (special waivers, limited number of applicants, etc) that may end up giving a high enrollment percentage.

My cousin went there and got his degree in Veterinary Medicine. One of the smartest guys I know.
Posted by bofadeez_dawg
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:55 am to
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And then you had to get back to your job at the shoe store at the mall.


Actually, was on my way to your sisters apartment.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:57 am to
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A good buddies daughter just got to AU to start classes. 19 ACT. Paint it any color you like but AU isn't difficult to get into.


What was her GPA?
Did she score higher on her SATs?
Was she the child of an alumni?
Is she on a medical hardship waiver?
Diagnosed with a disability that would mitigate test scores (like dyslexia)?

Don't come to an argument with a single, anecdotal story. Back it up with numbers or not at all.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:59 am to
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It's a good school. It may have a high acceptance rate, but that doesn't necessarily make it "easy" to get into. There's plenty of potential mitigating factors (special waivers, limited number of applicants, etc) that may end up giving a high enrollment percentage.


Thankfully someone from superior school to UGA such as Alabama, can explain this to the less intelligent folks at UGA and Auburn. Your acceptance rate and your post clearly proves this
Posted by bofadeez_dawg
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:03 am to
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What was her GPA?
Did she score higher on her SATs?
Was she the child of an alumni?
Is she on a medical hardship waiver?
Diagnosed with a disability that would mitigate test scores (like dyslexia)?


No idea on GPA, didn't take the SAT, not the daughter of an alum, and no disability. Not saying any kid with a 19 gets in. Just saying she did.
Posted by GaTiger77
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:12 am to
Well I know some idiot kid barely graduating high school that goes to a community college. Transfers into uga with a 2.9 GPA. No disability or special circumstances to warrant acceptance. So I guess we both know "those" students.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 8:25 am
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:15 am to
UGA = Harvard of the South

AU = Strayer lite

Posted by bofadeez_dawg
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:18 am to
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Well I know some idiot kid barely graduating high school that does to a community college. Transfers into uga with a 2.9 GPA. No disability or special circumstances to warrant acceptance. So I guess we both know "those" students.


Maybe so. But there is no arguing the difference in how difficult it is to get into UGA vs AU. Stats back that up as fact, it's not my opinion. AU is a fine school. Their vet school and engineering, particularly architecture are top notch. Still doesn't mean that it is difficult to get accepted.
Posted by bamasgot13
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:20 am to
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Sad that anyone really thinks employers would really view any sec school degree differently (obvious vandy exception).



They would and do depending on a few unique circumstances like; what is the job (an engineering degree at AU is really good, but for a the business school at Bama is better), where is the job, who is doing the hiring (and where did they go to school), etc.

This dick measuring every off season is irrelevant to the masses, but there are exceptions where a degree from one SEC school is better than a degree from another.
Posted by GaTiger77
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:25 am to
Too bad employers don't view it that way.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:27 am to
And we all file out of our schools with the big check mark of getting a BA or BS and fighting for the same jobs. I think this mentality of "I am special cause I got a degree" is rampant today. You and I are not special. Get a masters or PHD if you want to be special.

Your degree is to help you get your first job. After that it is all about connections and experience. The great part is if you are able to get past the "my school is better" mentality, anyone from any school can be a great connection for you. That is unless they realize you really believe your degree is better, then no one wants to help you.
Posted by bofadeez_dawg
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:27 am to
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They would and do depending on a few unique circumstances like; what is the job (an engineering degree at AU is really good, but for a the business school at Bama is better), where is the job, who is doing the hiring (and where did they go to school), etc.

This dick measuring every off season is irrelevant to the masses, but there are exceptions where a degree from one SEC school is better than a degree from another.



On point. I work for one of the largest technology companies in the world and you can bet certain degrees from certain schools carry more weight than others. Maybe not if you have a marketing degree but certainly so in many instances.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:28 am to
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3. Georgia: Getting into the state’s flagship university is becoming more competitive each year as 56 percent of the school’s 20,877 applicants were accepted. Georgia graduated 61 percent of its students in four years and 82 percent in five years.


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7. Auburn: The little school on The Plains is statistically the easiest SEC school to gain admittance, as 83 percent of last year’s applicants were offered admission. Forty-two percent of the student body graduated within four years, while 65 percent needed five years for a diploma.



lots of people gonna be upset with these facts.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:29 am to
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Heard right here on the rant if you couldn't get into UGA you couldn't get into AU. 100% of the kids I know prove otherwise. But that fella was convinced. Pretty sure it was Phan



Says dude who didn't go to either.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:31 am to
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It's a good school. It may have a high acceptance rate, but that doesn't necessarily make it "easy" to get into. There's plenty of potential mitigating factors (special waivers, limited number of applicants, etc) that may end up giving a high enrollment percentage.



Anybody who thinks that straight up "acceptance rate = difficulty to get admitted" is a fricking idiot anyway.

Looking at application #s and admission averages will tell the story.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:32 am to
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On point. I work for one of the largest technology companies in the world and you can bet certain degrees from certain schools carry more weight than others. Maybe not if you have a marketing degree but certainly so in many instances.


I work for one of the largest medical companies in the world. What is your point? If you only have a undergrad, then no, that UGA degree is not why you are working at your job. This is an asinine mindset.


ETA: I have business degree that is not marketing.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 8:40 am
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:32 am to
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Thankfully someone from superior school to UGA such as Alabama, can explain this to the less intelligent folks at UGA and Auburn. Your acceptance rate and your post clearly proves this


Not sure how much of this is sarcasm - it doesn't translate well over the internet :)
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:38 am to
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Looking at application #s and admission averages will tell the story.


UGA:
Avg GPA for first year students: 3.91
ACT average: 29
SAT average: 1290-1480

AU:
Avg GPA for first years: 3.74
ACT range: 24-30
SAT average: 1090-1350
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:43 am to
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WG_Dawg



You and me, general knowledge questions, you can choose the topics, go

But my point is that Auburn isn't last in admission difficulty and the article is misleading by using acceptance % for that measure.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:44 am to
That's what's wrong with our university ranking systems.

Maybe we should stop judging universities solely on who they input and instead focus on who they output. Why the hell should universities be ranked based on a student's high school achievements?

Shouldn't we place more emphasis on how the university actually performs?
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