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re: Let's have a look back at the BCS days (1998-2013)
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:00 am to GumpDyke
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:00 am to GumpDyke
The worst teams to win were 2002 Ohio State and the Chris Leak Florida team. But the least deserving team was 2003 LSU. They lost 19-7 at home with their only score coming by a special teams TD to an 8-5 Florida team starting a true freshman QB. Compare that to USC who lost in triple OT to an Aaron Rodgers led Cal team on the road. USC had by far the more respectable loss. Plus their schedule was garbage that year. Their OOC schedule consisted of a 2-10 Arizona, 1-11 Louisiana Monroe and FCS team Western Illinois. The SEC West was down and the only teams they played with a pulse were Georgia 2x, Florida and Ole Miss. They were badly outplayed in two of those games (Florida at home, Georgia at home) and barely scraped by Ole Miss. USC was completely hosed that year.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:03 am to Bench McElroy
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They were badly outplayed
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Georgia at home)
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:17 am to Bench McElroy
yea, but....
frick you
frick you
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:20 am to Bench McElroy
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They were badly outplayed in two of those games (Florida at home, Georgia at home)
I like where your heads at, but in no way did we outplay them in the first meeting in 03. We were lucky to even be tied with 2 minutes left.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:59 am to Bench McElroy
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Compare that to USC who lost in triple OT to an Aaron Rodgers led Cal team on the road.
I like how you say that like he was even remotely comparable back then to the player he is now.
2011 Bama is the most undeserving modern day cfb champion. Deal with it.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:52 am to Bench McElroy
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But the least deserving team was 2003 LSU. They lost 19-7 at home with their only score coming by a special teams TD to an 8-5 Florida team starting a true freshman QB. Compare that to USC who lost in triple OT to an Aaron Rodgers led Cal team on the road.
You realize that Cal team was only 7-6, right? And that LSU had much more impressive wins (2 over Georgia alone, who was ranked in the top 10 both times) and played a tougher schedule? LSU was more deserving than USC that year.
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Plus their schedule was garbage that year.
USC's was worse, at least by all the schedule strength measures in use at the time. Georgia was significantly better than anyone USC played that year, and we had to play them twice.
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They were badly outplayed in two of those games (Florida at home, Georgia at home)
Florida yes, Georgia no. You are just looking at total yardage and obviously didn't watch the game. Georgia held the upper hand until about midway through the 2nd quarter, but it was all LSU after that. Virtually all of UGa's yardage advantage came on one play (the 93-yard TD pass late in the game) and the desperation drive at the end after we had scored to regain the lead and were just playing to keep them out of the end zone.
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barely scraped by Ole Miss
Funny how you want to look at stats for the Georgia game but only the scoreboard for this one. LSU absolutely dominated this game statistically, but a flu-plagued Matt Mauck's multiple interceptions (including a pick-6) kept Ole Miss in it, and a very fortuitous defensive holding call on 3rd and long deep in their own territory kept their only offensive scoring drive alive.
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USC was completely hosed that year.
USC and LSU played 2 common opponents, Arizona and Auburn. Against Arizona, both won in easy blowouts (LSU 59-13, USC 45-0). Against Auburn, USC had a tough, close game for three quarters (6-0 at half? 13-0 at end of 3rd?) before Auburn's defense gave out and allowed a couple of late scores for a final margin of 23-0. LSU jumped all over Auburn 21-0 in the first quarter and increased it to 31-0 through three quarters before coasting to a 31-7 win (Auburn scored in the final 2 minutes).
LSU compiled a better record (12-1 vs. 11-1) against a tougher schedule, was ranked higher in EVERY computer ranking, got robbed of a "quality win" over Georgia because we had to play them a second time, which knocked them out of the top 10 when we beat them again, and was also robbed by ACC refs of a chance to avenge our only loss when Florida got totally screwed against FSU, knocking them down in the BCS rankings and killing them in the tiebreaker for the East.
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the only teams they played with a pulse were Georgia 2x, Florida and Ole Miss
Not Auburn, huh? OK, but they were better than Cal by all measures, so obviously Cal didn't have a pulse either. Therefore you are saying the team that beat LSU (Florida) had a pulse and the team that beat USC (Cal) didn't, but USC had the more respectable loss? Weird.
Bottom line: LSU's argument vs. USC in 2003 >>>>>>>>>>>> Bama's argument vs. Okla. St. in 2011
Posted on 4/11/15 at 12:03 am to Bench McElroy
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But the least deserving team was 2003 LSU.
It should have been LSU and USC in the championship no questions asked. How can you say that we were less deserving than an Oklahoma team who was blown out the water in the big 12 championship game?
Posted on 4/14/15 at 4:06 pm to Bench McElroy
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They were badly outplayed in two of those games (Florida at home, Georgia at home) and barely scraped by Ole Miss. USC was completely hosed that year.
Nice try. UGA in no way outplayed LSU in the first game and got cremated in the SECCG. LSU totally outclassed the Sooners. So to say USC got hosed is acceptable only if you say the Sooners should not have been there. LSU belonged in the Title game and their victory over UGA in Atlanta was stronger than any game won by the Trojans.
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