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re: Kevin Steele is a downgrade

Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by NFLSU
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:03 pm to
It's the Aggie logic that "Chavis shut us down, he must be the GOAT" that makes LSU fans laugh.
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:03 pm to
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well to be fair, it has no where to go but up


Like your defense.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:03 pm to
Well yea
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70974 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:03 pm to
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well to be fair, it has no where to go but up



correct

I know what it's like when LSU has a top 5 defense and just average QB play. They win a minimum of 10 games.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:03 pm to
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Been tryna tell y'all this for years

That's the weird part considering everyone's already known it for years.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:04 pm to
And we know what it's like to have a great offense and an average defense
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:05 pm to
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That's the weird part considering everyone's already known it for years.



Some of y'all still act surprised

It's ok, I know y'all are slow
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:05 pm to
My Avi is for Mizzou I'm a Missouri native by birth. It's Hobbes from Calvin and Hobbes. It's not meant to imply anything about LSU

Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:06 pm to
No, I'm talking about your sig pic at the bottom. It has the LSU logo with Toonces in it.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:07 pm to
nvm
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 4:07 pm
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:07 pm to
Texas in your sig quote..LSU in your sig pic..
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:08 pm to
Aggy on your mind.

All day, err day
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70974 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:09 pm to
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And we know what it's like to have a great offense and an average defense



which resulted in what exactly?

Answer: one flash in the pan year

again, LSU already has the guy at QB who could make this offense click. aTm still has ground to make up in terms of recruiting. I'm not trying to troll or flame or anything, but Chavis isn't a miracle worker. He always had top talent at LSU to work with, and his defense relies heavily on CB's who can roam the field and/or play man
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:10 pm to
Sorry Aubie gave me the sig pic, it is full of too much awesomeness to get rid of it


And the sig line is too damn awesome as well. Every whorn in Texas was running around proclaiming Saban was leaving Bama for the whorns. So much arrogance, so much humor
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:11 pm to
John Chavis, based on FACTS, is clearly a better DC than Kevin Steele. I don't see where people are arguing that. LSU fans, myself included, are just upset with the way he left (talking on the phone before the bowl game) and with how he is handling things now (acting as though he didn't violate the terms of the contract).

That being said, Chavis has his work cut out for him at A&M. Yes, their offense will be more productive than LSU but if you look at time of possession last year (LSU #9 in the country at 33 MPG and A&M #122 at 26 MPG) than that is going to require a lot of depth on defense; something A&M doesn't have. I think he'll clearly improve the defense in Year 1, but there will be some major growing pains at times... just like there will be at LSU. I'm definitely not going to sit here and argue that Steele is some great DC hire. It will be nice to see more pressure on the QB from the front four though and I do believe that is going to improve for LSU. It will be interesting to see how that shakes out at A&M based on whatever scheme Chavis thinks he will run with the current talent/experience on defense at A&M.

Trying to argue that A&M's defense is going to be more talented than LSU's in a couple of years is a bold statement though. If you believe that, you're going to be disappointed.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34353 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:11 pm to
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No, you just fall into Aggy groupthink too readily.



Did you really just say that in a thread where almost every LSU poster is talking down the Chavis loss (aka something UNTHINKABLE back in November) and talking up the Steele hire (aka something UNTHINKABLE until Les also hired Coach O)?

Glass houses Wade.

To be fair I fall into Aggie groupthink when it serves my narrative. It is not the second gear for me like many Aggies. I would think I could get a little credit for that by now.
Posted by Jenar Boy
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34353 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:12 pm to
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I was implying that some of yall DO follow LSU football closely.





Not me (because I actually don't like the game as much as all the political BS that surrounds the game) but sure some A&M posters do follow LSU football quite closely.

quote:

aTm still has ground to make up in terms of recruiting.


Agreed. How much ground is the matter of debate.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 4:13 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:12 pm to
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LSU already has the guy at QB who could make this offense click.


Heard this before

quote:

Chavis isn't a miracle worker.


For the umpteenth time, he doesn't have to be. A marginal improvement on that side of the ball will be sufficient.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70974 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:13 pm to
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Did you really just say that in a thread where almost every LSU poster is talking down the Chavis loss (aka something UNTHINKABLE back in November) and talking up the Steele hire (aka something UNTHINKABLE until Les also hired Coach O)?



sigh

look, every LSU fan on the planet adored Chavis. The point being made is that he is not going to turn a defense full of Big 12 caliber players into a dominant defense. He relied very heavily on the recruiting of Raymond and Wilson. He always had top tier athletes to run his defense. Yall will likely get there, but it's not something that can be turned around in 1 or 2 seasons IMO.
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