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re: John's Betrayal - The Real 3rd and Chavis?

Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:32 am to
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:32 am to
Here are the stats for Chavis while at LSU:

2014 - #30 nationally in defensive 3rd down conversion rate (36%)
2013 - #63 nationally (39.5%)
2012 - #9 nationally (31.5%)
2011 - #36 nationally (35.9%)
2010 - #8 nationally (33.3%)

Average - #29 nationally. It's not elite by any stretch, but neither is it horrible by any stretch.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9211 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Here are the stats for Chavis while at LSU:

2014 - #30 nationally in defensive 3rd down conversion rate (36%)
2013 - #63 nationally (39.5%)
2012 - #9 nationally (31.5%)
2011 - #36 nationally (35.9%)
2010 - #8 nationally (33.3%)

Average - #29 nationally. It's not elite by any stretch, but neither is it horrible by any stretch.





We are all measured in Championship and not stats.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19374 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:02 am to
These stats give a different perspective on Chief, at least for me. While LSU's DC, LSU lost 10 games in which we had the lead in the 4th quarter, 6 of which were literally last minute drives. If you add this yr's black bears' game, where Bad Bo blew a reasonable opportunity for a last minute, game tying field goal, leading to a more than probable OT win, that would have made 7 games Chief's defenses lost in the last minute of games with LSU leading. With the defensive talent LSU has had under Chief, blowing 11 games in the 4th quarter is inexcusable. And most of the game winning drives were executed fairly easily by the opposing teams.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44021 posts
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:43 am to
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Average - #29 nationally. It's not elite by any stretch, but neither is it horrible by any stretch


This is all LSU fans are saying. He takes and elite unit and makes them look slightly above average on 3rd downs because of his passive style. It works ok when he has the horses up front that can pressure without help from the blitz, but when his Dlines are anything other than elite you get seasons like 2009, 2013, & 2014.

So, his defense was ranked in the top 30 (in 3rd down conversions against) twice in six years while at LSU. I think his 3rd and Chavis reputation is well earned.

ETA: Chavis was at LSU in 2009 as well. You didn't include that year in your stats. (31st at 36.04%)
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 11:51 am
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