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re: Should Bama fans accept mediocrity in basketball?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:54 am to FourThreeForty
Posted on 12/21/14 at 9:54 am to FourThreeForty
I am like you. I have only attended one game and am ok with a so-so program. Football is king. Baseball is even worse.
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:07 am to CrimsonChin
quote:frick no
Should Bama fans accept mediocrity in basketball?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:09 am to auburnphan23
quote:Hard to sell 15K tickets to see us best Stillman.
Alabama basketball has never sold out for most non conference games. Not even when Wimp Sanderson was the coach
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:10 am to CrimsonChin
quote:I hate people like you.
I have only attended one game and am ok with a so-so program.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:12 am to StringedInstruments
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Auburn went out and got Bruce Pearl, but the upper deck of the arena is still mostly empty. Makes me think Auburn will never get over the hump of being a bad basketball program.
We sold out b-ball season tickets. We got off to a slow start without our full roster, conference play hasn't even started, and we still had an almost full arena last night while school is out and the students aren't even there. If you think AU isn't supporting B-ball and isn't going to have a LOT of packed out home games this year, you have no clue and will see soon enough.
As for bama, I was thinking about the question posed earlier this morning. In 75 years, bama has made the NCAA tourney 20 times. They have only made 1 elite 8 and never a final four.
I would say Grant's program right now is about the norm for bama hoops. Make the NCAA tourney once every 3 years or so and generally get bounced first round.
Bama could fire Grant and I think they will because of what is happening with AU, but I doubt it will help any, especially with AU hoops about to be a NCAA tourney regular with Pearl. AU has the #11 recruiting class in B-ball right now and a class like that should easily make the tourney next year and probably win one, maybe two in the tourney.
Note, I am not saying AU is better than bama in basketball historically. AU was just fortunate to hit a grand slam with the Pearl hire and the question for bama is who would they get if they fire Grant that could compete with Pearl for recruits. I think no one as Grant is actually a great recruiter as it is.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:17 am to CrimsonChin
Pathetic.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:19 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:We've had 8 sweet 16s and have one of the most tournament wins of anyone that hasn't made the final four. We should be better than we have been.
I would say Grant's program right now is about the norm for bama hoops.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:26 am to pvilleguru
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We should be better than we have been.
Probably. Definitely with the talent bama has had. However, Grant did bring in that talent. He has 1 NCAA tourney appearance in 5 years so far, historically the norm has been one NCAA tourney appearance every 3-4 years, losing in the first round about half the time. He is pretty close to historical norms for bama.
Overall, I agree that he should be doing better than he is though. I suspect bama will be looking around to see if they can find someone better by midseason this year unless Grant gets off to a big start in conference play.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:30 am to pvilleguru
You hate me because I don't show up at basketball games? Damn bro. I don't even know what to say to that.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:31 am to CrimsonChin
quote:No, because you don't care if we stay so-so just because the football team is good.
You hate me because I don't show up at basketball games? Damn bro. I don't even know what to say to that.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:33 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Alabama is not going to fire Grant because of what's happening in Auburn. They're going to fire him because we're tired of the same old shite. Grant has been a solid recruiter, even with as bad of marketing as he's had. He just can't coach.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 10:54 am to CrimsonChin
No
Not only a short answer it's the only answer.
Not only a short answer it's the only answer.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:11 am to CrimsonChin
frick mediocrity.
Whether you think Bama is or has been a good basketball program doesn't matter. It COULD be a very good program with the right coach and support. And I'm not talking about fan support. Despite what the clueless on here say, there are a lot of Bama basketball fans, and a lot of other people who would really like to be if the team wasn't so predictably mediocre every year. Win and the fans will return.
Whether you think Bama is or has been a good basketball program doesn't matter. It COULD be a very good program with the right coach and support. And I'm not talking about fan support. Despite what the clueless on here say, there are a lot of Bama basketball fans, and a lot of other people who would really like to be if the team wasn't so predictably mediocre every year. Win and the fans will return.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:18 am to Teague
A lot of schools could win with the right coach. Alabama has never attracted a big name basketball coach and they never will unless they are willing to take someone with previous baggage like Auburn did with Pearl
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:25 am to CrimsonChin
Being pumped about Bama in basketball has taken a beaten over the last 20 years. It doesn't take much to take away interest, nor does it take much to revive it.
Bama has just absorbed so many. 500 seasons, one can't take but so much and just learn to accept it.
For an analysis, take a look at Auburn s football team from 2012 to 2014 and the losses to aTm. The loss to the Aggies in '12 was much worse on paper, yet was more "accepted" by auburn fans than 2014's loss due to expectations. Same with Bama basketball. Back in the day, Bama would make the tournament with normality, seeded between 2 and 9. There were always expectations of a sweet 16, and when it didn't happen, it was tough to absorb. Now, we can't do anything worth a crap in basketball, Bama fans just have to accept it, since nothing will seemingly be done about it.
Bama has just absorbed so many. 500 seasons, one can't take but so much and just learn to accept it.
For an analysis, take a look at Auburn s football team from 2012 to 2014 and the losses to aTm. The loss to the Aggies in '12 was much worse on paper, yet was more "accepted" by auburn fans than 2014's loss due to expectations. Same with Bama basketball. Back in the day, Bama would make the tournament with normality, seeded between 2 and 9. There were always expectations of a sweet 16, and when it didn't happen, it was tough to absorb. Now, we can't do anything worth a crap in basketball, Bama fans just have to accept it, since nothing will seemingly be done about it.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:28 am to DaleDenton
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What in bama's history says they are above mediocrity and should be "settling"?
I don't know.
2nd in Sec tourney titles
3rd in Sec regular season titles
Tied for 4th in NCAA appearances (2nd in pre expansion teams)
2nd in all time conference wins
Other than that, I got nothing.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:33 am to auburnphan23
Then Auburn needs to sell more season ticket packages. That arena last night was EMPTY and that's playing a premium OCC game
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:36 am to BigBlue8Titles
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That arena last night was EMPTY and that's playing a premium OCC game
Replay is on SEC network right now. Looks pretty packed to me. Maybe you should take a look as I'm not sure what you are talking about.
In fact I am watching it now and every single lower level seat is full and the vast majority of the upper level.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 11:38 am
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:55 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
So now you're an expert on Alabama basketball.
The difference in Alabama and Auburn basketball historically may be larger than each respective football program historically. Your stat about Alabama going to "only" 20 tournaments in 75 years is a little misleading considering prior to the 70s only 1 or 2 SEC schools made the tournament. I started following Alabama basketball as a young kid (had an uncle who played basketball at Alabama in the 70s) in the early 80s and only remember us not making the tourney once or twice from then through college. There's no reason given Alabama's history that they shouldn't at least make the tourney most years. As far as fan support, Alabama has historically attended conference and big name OOC games in big numbers. Other than UK, Arkansas, Tennessee, and now Mizzou, Alabama fans have supported basketball as well historically as any other programs in the SEC.
The difference in Alabama and Auburn basketball historically may be larger than each respective football program historically. Your stat about Alabama going to "only" 20 tournaments in 75 years is a little misleading considering prior to the 70s only 1 or 2 SEC schools made the tournament. I started following Alabama basketball as a young kid (had an uncle who played basketball at Alabama in the 70s) in the early 80s and only remember us not making the tourney once or twice from then through college. There's no reason given Alabama's history that they shouldn't at least make the tourney most years. As far as fan support, Alabama has historically attended conference and big name OOC games in big numbers. Other than UK, Arkansas, Tennessee, and now Mizzou, Alabama fans have supported basketball as well historically as any other programs in the SEC.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 11:57 am to Govt Tide
I posted a few facts and you are calling me an expert now. 
I think you are impressed a bit too easily.
Facts gonna fact though.
I think you are impressed a bit too easily.
Facts gonna fact though.
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