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re: Best SEC Defenses/Offenses of last 5 years
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Call me a homer, but I maintain that the 2011 LSU defense was better. Statistically their numbers were not significantly different with Bama having a slight edge in a few categories. The eyeball test for these numbers is very misleading based on the offenses that LSU played as opposed to those that Bama faced. The non common opponents that LSU faced had much higher ranked offenses, and therefore confounded the numbers. Also LSU had a more accurate sample size.
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 12:44 pm
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:50 pm to Bmath
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Call me a homer, but I maintain that the 2011 LSU defense was better.
You're a homer.
6 first rounders and a second rounder on that bama defense.
Mosley
Hightower
Barron
Kirkpatrick
Milliner
HCD
Upshaw
Lsu rape trained everyone they played in 2011 and scored 9 points in 8+ quarters on that defense.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:19 pm to Bmath
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Call me a homer, but I maintain that the 2011 LSU defense was better. Statistically their numbers were not significantly different with Bama having a slight edge in a few categories. The eyeball test for these numbers is very misleading based on the offenses that LSU played as opposed to those that Bama faced. The non common opponents that LSU faced had much higher ranked offenses, and therefore confounded the numbers. Also LSU had a more accurate sample size.
They were both great defenses. It's really hard to say who was better. Alabama had a better offense than LSU did in 2011. The LSU offense lived off of the momentum carried by the defense. A lot of the points scored that season were either defense and special teams, or setup by defense and special teams. And that should speak volumes to how great the LSU defense was considering how many points a Les Miles team scored that year
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:08 pm to Bmath
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Call me a homer, but I maintain that the 2011 LSU defense was better. Statistically their numbers were not significantly different with Bama having a slight edge in a few categories.
While I think the 2011 LSU defense was a great one (and in my opinion, 2nd only to Bama that year), I think the numbers were a bit more significantly different than you do...and I think they had an edge in more than just a few categories:
Per the NCAA 2011 FBS Stats Website:
Rushing Defense
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Bama #1 2.43 ypc, 72.15 ypg
LSU #4 2.74 ypc, 90.07 ypg
Passing Defense
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Bama #1 49.1 comp %, 4.34 ypa, 111.46 ypg
LSU #8 52.4 comp %, 5.49 ypa, 171.43 ypg
Total Defense
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Bama #1 3.32 ypp, 183.62 ypg
LSU #2 4.08 ypp, 261.5 ypg
Scoring Defense
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Bama #1 8.15 ppg
LSU #2 11.29 ppg
First Downs Allowed
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Bama #1 10.08 fdpg
LSU #3 15.14 fdpg
3rd Down Defensive Conversion Efficiency
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Bama #1 24.46%
LSU #19 33.97%
Red Zone Defensive Efficiency
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Bama #1 0.59
LSU #100 0.88
LSU did lead Bama in Turnovers Gained (#16 to #77) and Tackles for Loss (#11 to #16)...
That being said, statistics never tell the whole story...
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The non-common opponents that LSU faced had much higher ranked offenses
Agree with you here as y'all played both Oregon and West Virginia that year...but, from a statistical standpoint, I don't think it skewed the numbers so much that LSU's defense would've overtaken Bama's that particular year...
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:51 pm to Bmath
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The non common opponents that LSU faced had much higher ranked offenses, and therefore confounded the numbers.
This. nuff said!
2011 LSU Def GOAT!
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:05 pm to Bmath
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Call me a homer, but I maintain that the 2011 LSU defense was better. Statistically their numbers were not significantly different with Bama having a slight edge in a few categories. The eyeball test for these numbers is very misleading based on the offenses that LSU played as opposed to those that Bama faced.
This
Plus Bama got to face the Jordan Jefferson led offense TWICE.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:33 pm to Bmath
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Call me a homer, but I maintain that the 2011 LSU defense was better.
Im not being a Homer. Compare the schedules and offenses each team.played in 11. No fricking way in hell Bama's defense was better than ours with the schedule we played.
Oregon, West Va.,Nw st, western Kentucky
Kent st, Penn st, north texas, GA southern.
One is not the same
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