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Alaka, Walker, Chevis, and Wade need to grow up in a hurry

Posted on 10/5/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 2:26 pm
Bass, Mastrogiovanni, and Baggs are NOT the answer at linebacker and it showed yesterday.
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/5/14 at 3:51 pm to
I feel like I was conned with the way some people were pumping up mastro.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 4:27 pm to
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Washington is the only one to keep his starting job next year.
Posted by SafetySam
Gettysburg, PA
Member since Oct 2013
7435 posts
Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:04 pm to
If Claiborne had had a head on his shoulders, and if Hilliard hadn't gotten hurt, our D would look very different. It seems that of all the position groups on the team, we're thinnest at backer. And that's a bad place to be thin.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:39 am to
Chevis is DL now.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:44 pm to
Mastro missed some tackles badly. That's 2 poor performers back to back.

Walker needs to get acclimated quickly. We're going to need him more this year.

Can't figure out Chevis. He doesn't seem like he really wants to get on the field.


Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:36 pm to
Had a few days to think about it and figure this is a good place to start. Warning: this is long. Don't read if you are still melting.

Our LB play hasn't been atrocious. No where near as bad as last year honestly. Not even close. Disappointing is fair though. At this point there is zero doubt we've either absolutely failed in evaluations or development in spots. Combined with injuries, this has left us with a former walk-on playing key minutes at 2 positions. My feel is that our evals from the '13 class were just awful.

I know everyone loves to blame someone so who's fault is that? Wally? Snyder? Sumlin? The way the system works, someone nominates a guy and the position coach, coordinator, and Sumlin sign off before a guy is offered. One thing to consider is that a number of those guys were offered and committed long before our '12 season took off. And guys like Chevis, Wade, and Sanders were all EEs so not easy to replace.

As far as development, Hilliard, Washington and Mastro (yes Mastro) have shown nice improvement over where they were last year. Each one has had an injury and Mastro's was worse than we've let on. We simply have no options and a 75% Mastro is better than what we have behind. In hindsight, we probably should have sat him the last few weeks but Bass is the only other person that can legitimately play MLB right now (Hilliard was prepped for it).

Linebacker is technical. You have to do many things against your instincts. It's what Claiborne seriously struggled with last year and at times we got abused because of it. MLB and SAM in particular are cerebral positions. WLB is much easier as you have a gap and a coverage area (or man).

SAM has edge responsibility, man responsibility (usually TE) and plays on the LOS. It's a beast of a position because you need both the length to play in pass, the size to handle SEC TEs blocking you on the edge, and the quickness to both hold the edge and blitz at times. Shaan Washington will be very good here. So will Alaka but he needs to develop both mentally and physically. I think longer term we're fine. For this year, Baggs is adequate though not good. It's not changing unless Hilliard comes back and we can move Wash back here.

MLB is the single hardest position. It's the same everywhere. LSU has a 5-star MLB that is barely playing behind a guy that physically is more limited than Bass. The MLB often does not have a gap assignment and their job is to make sure every gap is covered pre-snap, mirror the RB behind the LOS (staying out of traffic), and drop into pass coverage. Mastro's problems are the reverse of Claiborne's last year. Claiborne would attack but RBs would cut back to another hole and he would take himself out of plays. Mastro waits too long to keep that from happening. It's limited the huge gaping holes but leads to fewer TFLs.

Knowing when to attack and when to mirror is hard and takes experience and knowing everything going on around you. You can attack if it's the only hole. And you should attack if someone else gets a hand on the back and be that second man. If there is a cutback lane you need to mirror. Experience is the only way to get better. That can come in the film room, practice field, or game. Each has their value. But there are very few defenses that are good that have inexperienced MLBs. And whether it makes you irritable or not, that's the spot we're in. I haven't seen enough of Walker to know, but the coaches feel like they hit on both LBs this year. In today's game with such diversity to offenses, the MLB is just a hard, hard position to play. Losing Richmond from the '12 class, mis-eval in '13, Claiborne washing out and Hilliard hurt leaves us where we are. We can bitch (and I get it) but the coaches can't do that - they have to put the guy out there that gives us the best chance even if you don't like it.

WLB is comparatively easier. You generally have a gap assignment and a coverage responsibility and so you are looking for that instinctual linebacker. They can shoot that gap when they read it. Or blitz, etc. I wondered if the coaches would move Walker here when Hilliard got hurt but it's a catch-22. If they do, he's missing reps at MLB and as long as Bass can play both, you can focus Walker on where we're going to need him long term. Washington has been good. Bass honestly is adequate at WLB but his physical limitations hurt him at MLB.

Anyway, this is what we have. Those 4 are going to play. The 2 freshmen may slowly work into the rotation. We're probably taking 5 LBs this year and we need them.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 2:13 pm to
tmc94, thank you for the post. You are the best poster on this website.
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5888 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

tmc94, thank you for the post. You are the best poster on this website.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62985 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 3:04 pm to
thank you

Do you think it would be worth trying to get Walker and Alaka more experience this year so they can be better prepared to make an impact next year? I have total confidence in Hilliard and Washington, Mastro remains to be seen and I know he's hurt, but if fear we will be razor thin again next year and will take enormous steps back if any of those three got hurt. I don't remember either playing a ton again Lamar Rice and SMU
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

fear we will be razor thin again next year and will take enormous steps back if any of those three got hurt

we will be. There's really no two ways around that because LBs rarely make impacts as freshmen. Ideally they are redshirted but we just haven't had that luxury (I say that but am still annoyed we didn't go more JUCO in '13 or '14). Washington and Mastro barely played last year and Hilliard barely did at TCU his fish year. Next year we'll start with about the same depth as this year (5 guys that have game experience): Hilliard, Washington, Mastro, Walker, Alaka

The hope is we can get some EEs to provide some depth. Garner is an EE but it remains to be seen whether he plays. Jefferson is also an EE. But assuming the fish are learning the ropes etc, we have the following (in parenthesis are guys that are cross-trained there)

WLB: Hilliard (Washington)
MLB: Mastro, Walker (Hilliard)
SLB: Washington, Alaka (Hilliard)

This is essentially the same spot we are in this year with Walker and Alaka replacing Baggs and Bass going into the year. Still 5 guys. Luckily those replacements are far more talented than the outgoing guys. But we're still going to need to stay healthy. The problem right now is our SR and JR LB classes are just a black hole. Only 1 guy from either class is still here (and none from '10 who would be RS-SRs)

2011 class: Shaun Ward, Donnie Baggs, Steven Jenkins (JUCO), Darzil Washington
2012 class: Mike Richardson, Jordan Richmond
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:04 pm to
Could we spin down any of the larger DBs to linebacker such as Jonathan Wiggins?
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:13 pm to
I'm going to be blunt on this and I'm not directing this to Wiggins but just in general. When a player is a bust at the position you recruited him, you are better off him transferring than moving positions.

For some reason, our fans always suggest players moving positions when the thing holding them back is the technical aspects. They aren't going to "get it" faster by starting over at a completely new spot (moving from FS to SS or SLB to WLB is not hard because the techniques are mostly the same, just new keys).
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:26 pm to
The only reason I bring up Wiggins is that he's a similar size now to what Shaan Washington was when he first came in (Washington was 6'3 210 out of high school, Wiggins is 6'3 213 now)
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:41 pm to
You put waaaayyy too much stock in listed hts/wts. But beyond that, frame is exceptionally important. Daylon Mack is 6'. Ed Pope is 6'3". Know what I'm saying

We actually measure guys' wrists, arms and hands and various things to be able to tell how much weight they will naturally put on in our S&C program. We passed on a couple of 4* HS LBs this year because we just don't think they'll ever be thick enough.

I have no idea what the numbers are or what they need to be but Shaan was projected at LB because we felt like he would easily put on good weight.
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5888 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:27 pm to
Thanks for the info tmc.

You don't have to answer this, but what is your affiliation with the program? Are you on the staff? Do you currently coach?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

My feel is that our evals from the '13 class were just awful.


Seems like we at least missed on some character evals in that class.

Great write-up!
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62985 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:51 pm to
Don't ask and just bask in the information
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

Don't ask and just bask in the information


This.

Thanks as always, tmc
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:06 pm to


Y'all are hilarious. I simply know a few people is all
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