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re: Is there scientific evidence that some people are born gay?

Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:54 pm to
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I suspect you know as much about me as I know about quantum mechanics.


And vice versa, except that I know quite a bit about quantum mechanics.

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This is all just supposition.


Well, the man is married with kids but is wanting to have a relationship with a man. Um, that defines bisexuality by example. How can this logic escape you?

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I feel the same way about "people like you" because you can't stop at a factual argument and have to continually jump to my motives, which is just an ad hominem argument by proxy. It's a bore.


Fact is an overused word by theists. It carries very little weight with open-minded people. Nature is so variable that attempting to deal with "facts" can prevent you from seeing the big picture.

Since we find each other tiresome and boring, maybe we should just "live and let live" regarding this subject.

I have enjoyed our exchanges, though. I've learned something.
Posted by lenlews
NoMiss
Member since Apr 2011
662 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:55 pm to
No, they get sucked into it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
115213 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:59 pm to
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Well, the man is married with kids but is wanting to have a relationship with a man. Um, that defines bisexuality by example. How can this logic escape you?

And yet he self-identifies not as a bisexual but as a homosexual. He no longer wishes to have sex with women. So it's not nearly as cut and dried as one would proclaim, even from your side of the fence. My advisor in college was the same, a late entrant to the homosexual festivities, he had two adult children and an ex wife who was "supportive." He didn't identify as a bisexual either. As an aside, I find it interesting that those on the pro-homosexual-from-birth side are wont to define other people's sexuality for them, irrespective of the object's own self-identification.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:12 pm to
Well, there's sex and then there's sexuality. While just having sex is not necessarily an indicator of one's sexual orientation, marrying and fathering children is a much stronger trait.

I've had this discussion with any other people and it seems to boil down to the matter of identity vs. behavior. I lean to behavior because of the great emotional investment that's required for a relationship.

Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29278 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 4:46 pm to
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I personally know 3. Quit it.


No you don't.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16292 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 5:10 pm to
I have a fat friend who was born skinny and wishes he could hit a button but can't stop eating hot dogs.

Good thing his first hot dog didn't have a urethra.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
115213 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:11 pm to
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No you don't.

Sure I do. The tapestry of life is broader and richer than your experience and your presuppositions do not define other's experiences, even when you elevate them to statements of faith.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46651 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:24 pm to
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I personally know 3.


You know three people whose belief in the eternal consequences of their homosexuality is greater than their desire for satisfying physical relationships.

If I were gay but absolutely, 100% believed I was going to burn in hell for eternity for living life as a homosexual I'd gladly sacrifice the 80 or so years I'll be spending here. It blows my mind that some people actually believe "ex-gays" just stopped being attracted to the same sex because they started praying and reading the Bible.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:35 pm to
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NO there is no scientific evidence, but yes they are. Not in the manner you think though. I believe it is meta-physical. We are all born into sin, and we are each born with temptations to different sins. Attraction itself is not a sin, but it is a temptation. Temptation, if we make the CHOICE to do so, can become sin. It is like anything else in life. You have a choice. However the temptation, or attraction, to the opposite sex is something that might go away through time, or not.



What a crock of BS. Let me guess...Southern Baptist??
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
70044 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:37 pm to
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What a crock of BS. Let me guess...Southern Baptist??








Lemme guess. .....Gay?
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:39 pm to
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Lemme guess. .....Gay?



I'm beginning to think you are.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46651 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:41 pm to
How long does it take to get the shite smell off your dick after unprotected buttsects?

Just curious
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
70044 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:42 pm to
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How long does it take to get the shite smell off your dick after unprotected buttsects?

Just curious



Asking for a friend?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46651 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:44 pm to
I've just always been perplexed by the incredibly high rates of unprotected anal sex. That seems like it would disgust even the most hardcore butt pirate.

Throw it in whichever hole you like, I just cant imagine sticking my dick in shite without a poncho.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 7:45 pm
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:44 pm to
Stop bullying people.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:44 pm to
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How long does it take to get the shite smell off your dick after unprotected buttsects?



I have no idea. Why do you even think about things like this? Are you bi-curious or just trying to be an immature a-hole?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:46 pm to
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have no idea. Why do you even think about things like this? Are you bi-curious or just trying to be an immature a-hole?




Wouldn't you agree that a woman's vagina is exponentially more attractive than a man’s anus?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46651 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:46 pm to
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Why do you even think about things like this?


Once you've seen a man come into the ER with a fully intact lightbulb in his rectum, thoughts like that seem relatively mundane.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
70044 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:47 pm to
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I'm beginning to think you are.


Why, because I knew that "It's raining men" was written by Paul Shafer and you didn't?
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:48 pm to
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