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re: Ferguson, what's your opinion?

Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:44 pm to
They will be tonight...

CBS Evening News ?@CBSEveningNews · 11m
We've learned the racial makeup of the grand jury in the Michael Brown case includes 9 whites and 3 blacks.

Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:45 pm to
its going to be riot time when this goes the way of the pd
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:49 pm to
Police are out of control

Thugs are out of control

The system is badly broken

This incident and all that has surrounded it are symptoms of our sickness and failed social and economic systems.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25490 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:49 pm to
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If a police department says that they can't afford them, have a bake sale. The public will probably pay for them.


Ellisville just bought them for their entire force. $250 a camera. Total cost of about $7,000.00. My kid's team raises that much at a mouse race.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25490 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:51 pm to
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We've learned the racial makeup of the grand jury in the Michael Brown case includes 9 whites and 3 blacks.


That's been known. Was peaceful last night.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15752 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

this but the common cop fights against this.


I'm sure there are more than a few that don't want them but every cop I know (and I work with about 40 and know probably close to that many more) LOVE body cams. I know several that have bought their own if their agency doesn't provide them.

They aren't worried about getting caught badmouthing the boss. Nobody's going to sit around and watch video every day. They're worried about ending up in a situation exactly like the one in Missouri and they know the camera will save their arse.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:16 pm to
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Need pics of flag.


Working on it, friend. Hope you're having a good night by the way.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:25 pm to
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Working on it, friend




Likewise to you, SDAR

Doing my favorite thing when I have the house to myself: "nothing"
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:32 pm to
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Likewise to you, SDAR

Doing my favorite thing when I have the house to myself: "nothing"


That's always the best man, I had a date tonight and it went really well so I'm feeling particularly kind and amicable.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 9:07 am to
Carpet bomb the whole town with B-52 strikes and be over it.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 9:53 am to
As in post-Katrina behavior, very disappointed that we have still not progressed into a more civilized society.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
123768 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 9:57 am to
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As in post-Katrina behavior, very disappointed that we have still not progressed into a more civilized society.


There are too many who make money off of race baiting for us to progress past this kind of behavior unfortunately.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:03 am to
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As in post-Katrina behavior, very disappointed that we have still not progressed into a more civilized society.


Idiocracy, bro. The smarty civilized type ain't breeding enough to make it happen.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
115213 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:30 am to
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Carpet bomb the whole town with B-52 strikes and be over it.

We are a broken society.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19680 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 9:11 pm to

Had the Gentle Giant not thugged up a store owner after stealing a fistful of Swisher Sweets, I would have been inclined to believe the pro-Brown side. As things currently stand, I'm inclined to believe the police side

At this point, I simply want the evidence to be conclusive and beyond dispute. Hopefully a video turns up.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

Carpet bomb the whole town with B-52 strikes and be over it.
You're talking about Auburn right?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46651 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:28 am to
I don't believe for one second the officer gunned the kid down in cold blood as he begged for mercy with his hands up the whole time like some claim. He was a criminal, the main witness is a criminal and the officer in question sustained multiple facial injuries.

That being said, regardless of what happened beforehand, if the kid was running away and clearly not threatening anymore the officer shouldn't have shot him if for no other reason than it would have saved everyone a ton of hassle.

I don't know how threatened the officer felt, and I certainly don't feel sorry for the idiot who got killed, but if it happened even remotely like they say (meaning he was fleeing before the officer started firing) I can't see how pursuing him with backup wouldn't have been better.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268676 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:44 am to
I'm of the opinion that there's no way in hell I would be a white cop in a city with a high percentage of low income African Americans. Not that I would fear they are more dangerous, but lord help you if you have to shoot one.

Would be one in a native village either. Got a situation going on in Bethel, AK right now
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46651 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:58 am to
The most troubling part to me is the pack mentality that members of lower socioeconomic classes, who are disproportionately minorities, have in situations like this.

Watch the video of the shooting in St. Louis this week, it is INCREDIBLE the kind of lunacy the crowd is throwing around. It's almost an animalistic display with a complete inability to behave rationally or with any civility.

Those people didn't care one bit about whether it was justified or what the person who had been shot did, all they cared about was defending the "pack".
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
115213 posts
Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:46 pm to
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The most troubling part to me is the pack mentality that members of lower socioeconomic classes, who are disproportionately minorities, have in situations like this.

I'll go a step further. It's not really socioeconomic. It's tribal. And I don't mean that in an "African tribe" sense. A couple of my African American friends in town here are very well off, both have family incomes in the $150k+ range. And they see the shooting in much the same way as the protesters.

I don't think that's peculiar to black people. We are becoming a tribal society where the groups with which we identify are where we get our "truth." And those aren't necessarily tied to race for everyone. For some it's race, for some it's social strata, for some it's religion or lack thereof, for some it's political party, for some it's an issue-driven thing (dislike of cops or the opposite). We aren't nearly concerned with truth as we are with our tribals impulses.
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