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re: Why are Alabama fans the only fans that realize LSU is still a top 3 SEC team?

Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65315 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:13 pm to
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I'm sure the same thing was said every single year this site has existed

and recruiting has pretty much gotten better every year since the site existed as well. LSU also had arguably the best recruiting class they've ever had this past cycle, so there's that too.
Posted by Mizzou to my Lou
Miami
Member since Sep 2013
1767 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:14 pm to
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and recruiting has pretty much gotten better every year since the site existed as well.


Yet your offense has blown for the most part
Posted by Vyvanse
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2014
240 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:14 pm to
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Are you even reading this thread. See response below from one of your own fans.



Losing great players =/= Replacements being terrible.

ETA: and good returning players =/= now great players. ie. Bo Wallace, Dak Prescot, Nick Marshall.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 12:18 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65315 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:14 pm to
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LSU fans are doing themselves and the school a disservice by acting like 9-3 isn't going to be a solid year for LSU, and for this team especially.


9-3 is what I think LSU will do but 8-4 or 10-2+ isn't impossible either. I would be shocked if they lost more than 4 games. Anything less than 8 wins would be a huge disappointment, and I don't think that's an unfair statement.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28303 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:15 pm to
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how does that response justify 3rd-4th in the west?


Ole Miss and Miss. St. are as good as they have been in quite a while. One, or both of them, could realistically finish ahead of LSU. I wouldn't put money on it, but it is a possibility.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 12:16 pm
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10484 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:15 pm to
I think 9-3 means that LSU will have at least one disapointing lose games. Alabama and Auburn are very clearly 2 losable games, but after that I do not see a team that we shouldn't beat.

That being said the SEC west will be absolutely brutal this year, with the mid-teir teams bringing back alot of weapons, and the top teams losing some key peices.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79395 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:15 pm to
Nobody is expecting the replacements to suck. But you were 9-3 with good, experienced players. Not ridiculous to assume you'll stay there or drop off.

I don't advocate for low expectations, but in the end, if LSU finishes top 4 in the SEC West, it's unreasonable to be upset about that.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:16 pm to
Ugh LSU has averaged 10 wins for 10 years with Miles at the helm. So you are really just...wrong.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26619 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:16 pm to
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Alabama and Auburn are very clearly 2 losable games, but after that I do not see a team that we shouldn't beat.




Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65315 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:17 pm to
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Yet your offense has blown for the most part

the quarterbacks were bad for a few years. Since 2005, LSU has put almost every running back that has played in the NFL and most of their receivers. They have put a ton of OL in the league as well. And outside Jefferson and Lee, the quarterbacks have all been drafted into the league as well. People seriously underestimate how badly Ryan Perrilloux's dismissal affected the LSU program for 3 years.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79395 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:17 pm to
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9-3 is what I think LSU will do but 8-4 or 10-2+ isn't impossible either. I would be shocked if they lost more than 4 games. Anything less than 8 wins would be a huge disappointment, and I don't think that's an unfair statement.



I somewhat consider 8-4 a very real possibility, perhaps probability, for LSU. But I agree that the gap between 8-4 and 7-5 is pretty big, both in perception and probably in reality, when you consider it means losing to Arky or someone like that.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:17 pm to
whining and pandering in to bama posters in one post. Well done.

Or is this a subtle dig at how easy bama's schedule is since LSU is their 2nd hardest game?
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:17 pm to
We will see how things play out.

I expect bama will have played the weakest schedule in the sec as usual by the time the season is over. And AU the toughest.

You want to disagree, back it up with some reasons instead of irrelevant talk of last year.
Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
Member since Mar 2011
9999 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:18 pm to
Replacing solid, proven talent with young and unproven talent usually involves a little setback. Some of the typical middle of the road SECw teams are improving and LSU is basically replacing their entire offense. Which in turn means 3rd or 4th in the SECw, IMHO.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70962 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:19 pm to
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Replacing solid, proven talent with young and unproven talent usually involves a little setback. Some of the typical middle of the road SECw teams are improving and LSU is basically replacing their entire offense. Which in turn means 3rd or 4th in the SECw, IMHO.



what about LSU's defense?

I guess that just doesn't matter?

Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26619 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:21 pm to
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what about LSU's defense?

I guess that just doesn't matter?


Don't you guys lose most of your defensive line?

I don't think I'd consider having D.J. Welter play another year a "benefit," either.

Also, isn't Jalen Mills moving to safety from CB now?

Don't act like y'all are gonna go all 2011 on tSEC again
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 12:22 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65315 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Nobody is expecting the replacements to suck. But you were 9-3 with good, experienced players. Not ridiculous to assume you'll stay there or drop off.

while the offense will likely take a step back, the defense should, barring injury, take a huge step forward. LSU has won 10 games in spite of a dreadful offense several times with solid defensive play. Honestly the offensive production last year was very uncharacteristic of LSU the past 10 years. They just didn't have experience on defense to compliment them. This year, I think it should be expected that the LSU defense should be playing up to LSU standards.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 12:22 pm
Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
Member since Mar 2011
9999 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:21 pm to
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what about LSU's defense?


You better hope they can put some points on the board.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26619 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:22 pm to
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while the offense will likely take a step back, the defense should, barring injury, take a huge step forward.

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LSU has won 10 games in spite of a dreadful offense several times with solid defensive play.


And there you were bitching about assumptions.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70962 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:22 pm to
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Don't you guys lose most of your defensive line?



no, not really.

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I don't think I'd consider having D.J. Welter play another year a "benefit," either.



we'll see how this pans out.

LSU's secondary and DL will both be strong. The ? for me is LB.
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