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Do you believe in Evolution?

Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:07 pm
Map made me want to axe.


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Posted by DirtyDawg
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:08 pm to
lawd mississippi
Posted by Geaux9
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:09 pm to
Nothing to believe in. It's proven
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:10 pm to
Do you even homo sapien bro?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:11 pm to
I don't "believe" in evolution, I acknowledge it as established science. Asking whether or not one "believes" in evolution is akin to asking whether or not someone believes in convection or gravity, it doesn't really matter whether or not someone believes in it.
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:13 pm to
Come on Roger, everyone already knows how smart you are. That was a green answer so just say "Yes" and keep it simple.
Posted by parrothead
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:14 pm to
Evolution as in we came from a 1 celled organism that walked out of the water? No. Evolution as in we adapt to our surroundings slowly over time? Sure. The best example is the different strands of the flu that keep popping up. They change ever so slightly to keep getting past all the different flu shots
Posted by 2close2Gainesville
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:15 pm to
I think the majority of people are devolving while technology is evolving.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:16 pm to
I felt like saying "yes" would give the deniers a small window that they love taking advantage of.

People who deny evolution need to realize that it isn't an matter of belief, that idea is what props their ideology up. Evolution is far more well understood than many scientific principles that evolution deniers accept. It needs to be widely understood that a denial of evolution is a denial as outrageous as a denial of gravity.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

Evolution as in we came from a 1 celled organism that walked out of the water? No. Evolution as in we adapt to our surroundings slowly over time? Sure. The best example is the different strands of the flu that keep popping up. They change ever so slightly to keep getting past all the different flu shots


The mechanisms that allow for microbes to evolve pathogenicity are the same that allowed a single cell to beget all subsequent life.


As a side, viruses aren't technically applicable as they aren't living organisms. Viruses mutate, they don't evolve.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:21 pm to
I'm not about to hop into the multipage shitfest this is about to be but evolution is a well established and well documented, observable process that has nothing to do with belief.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

I felt like saying "yes" would give the deniers a small window that they love taking advantage of.

People who deny evolution need to realize that it isn't an matter of belief, that idea is what props their ideology up. Evolution is far more well understood than many scientific principles that evolution deniers accept. It needs to be widely understood that a denial of evolution is a denial as outrageous as a denial of gravity.


please it's just a theory. let me know when you have something concrete.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:24 pm to
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please it's just a theory. let me know when you have something concrete.



Wikipedia Article on Ring Species
Posted by PrivatePublic
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:24 pm to
This doesn't even ask if you believe in evolution. It asks if you believe in the theory of it. It's like asking someone if they believe in religion.
Posted by KSGamecock
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:26 pm to
Ignore the map, it just made me think to ask the question here.

I know the question is shitty and I can't even find a source for the data, just found the map on reddit. LINK
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:26 pm to
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please it's just a theory.


So is gravity.

quote:

let me know when you have something concrete.


Explain to me exactly what gravity is.
Posted by PrivatePublic
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:27 pm to
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documented, observable process.


Something that takes place over the course of millions of years is neither documentable nor observable.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:28 pm to
No, but speciation taking place right now is both documented and observable. The information pertaining to these so-called "ring species" and specific examples of their speciation are in the Wikipedia article I posted in my previous post.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:29 pm to
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Something that takes place over the course of millions of years is neither documentable nor observable.


The mechanisms of evolution are mutation and natural selection, both of which are observable. The evidence for evolution is genetics, geology, paleontology, etc. which are also observable.

To go even further, we actually HAVE observed speciation events at both the level of microbes and the level of advanced multicellular life. We have observed speciation among bacteria, and we have observed ring species evolving.
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 11:30 pm
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