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re: Do you believe in Evolution?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:06 am to GeauxWarTigers
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:06 am to GeauxWarTigers
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Even God could not comprehend the ability for women to frick shite up.
I'm loving the internet tonight.
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:07 am to Grievous Angel
This has been a very well written, thought provoking thread.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:08 am to Grievous Angel
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Would love to. And an SECRant gold medal to you, sir.
and to you as well. Shoot me an email sometime nogayporn@gmail.com
I promise not to eat you or try to save your soul or any weird shite. Although I'm pretty weird.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 1:20 am
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:09 am to Grievous Angel
This thread has actually generated some pretty well thought out, rational discussion. I'm impressed.
I guess I'd also describe myself as a waffler. I typically don't believe in a God, but admit that I could be wrong because there is no way to know for sure.
If I were to believe in a God it would be a more Deist view in which God created the universe and then left it alone.
I guess I'd also describe myself as a waffler. I typically don't believe in a God, but admit that I could be wrong because there is no way to know for sure.
If I were to believe in a God it would be a more Deist view in which God created the universe and then left it alone.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:12 am to GeauxWarTigers
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If I were to believe in a God it would be a more Deist view in which God created the universe and then left it alone.
If I'm honest with myself this is probably my stance as well. I want to and try to understand and believe in more however.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:13 am to KyleOrtonsMustache
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I promise not to eat you or try to save your soul or any weird shite. Although I'm pretty weird.
What if we already know each other? OH F%*@!
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:14 am to Grievous Angel
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What if we already know each other? OH F%*@!
My mind just exploded
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:17 am to KyleOrtonsMustache
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My mind just exploded
Email sent. Damn the torpedoes.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:18 am to Grievous Angel
I'll answer it in the am. It's bedtime. Plus I've probably posted more in this thread tonight than I have in 6 months combined.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:18 am to GeauxWarTigers
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If I were to believe in a God it would be a more Deist view in which God created the universe and then left it alone.
In my opinion, this where many theists would fall without the fear of Hell. Some do genuinely love the idea of God or their particular religion, but a lot of monotheists have for so long been taught the consequences of not believing they cant even consider the alternative.
I know that at the end of my "deconversion", the last thing keeping me hanging on was a fear of Hell.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:21 am to Roger Klarvin
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I know that at the end of my "deconversion", the last thing keeping me hanging on was a fear of Hell.
I went to church going up, but not all that frequently. This fear of hell was never really instilled in me.
If there is a hell, I've already accepted the fact that I'll be partying it up down there with all the cool dudes that fricked shite up throughout history.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:24 am to Roger Klarvin
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In my opinion, this where many theists would fall without the fear of Hell. Some do genuinely love the idea of God or their particular religion, but a lot of monotheists have for so long been taught the consequences of not believing they cant even consider the alternative.
I know that at the end of my "deconversion", the last thing keeping me hanging on was a fear of Hell.
Hmm. For me, and (I think) for most, that's how it starts. I remember my freshman roommate going down the halls of Byrd Hall asking random Jack Daniels drinking folks "where you gone go when you die?" (Cringe).
I think a bigger fear for many (and me) is the notion that life does NOT have the meaning prescribed to them by their religion. Regardless of afterlife consequences.
Life is rather arbitrary and pointless in a world of unbelief--really not much more than a soldier ant, albeit more evolved.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:31 am to Grievous Angel
I personally have no issue with life not having objective meaning. I have subjective meaning and purpose and that's all that matters.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:33 am to Roger Klarvin
Something messed with the dna along the way and created man as we we know it.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:39 am to Roger Klarvin
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I personally have no issue with life not having objective meaning. I have subjective meaning and purpose and that's all that matters
What meaning? And remember, I think you've been spot on throughout this thread, but this is where it gets challenging.
Do we exist just to procreate so that our offspring can live equally meaningless procreating lives?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:46 am to Grievous Angel
I have meaning because I believe I have meaning. If I'm wrong, I still believe I have meaning regardless.
I love my family, my friends, my hobbies, etc. If those feelings are just biological reactions in my brain and have no higher purpose, so what? They are meaningful to me. Most, including theists, agree that dogs have no higher purpose and yet they obviously value life and emotional attachment. I don't see why we have to be any different.
I love my family, my friends, my hobbies, etc. If those feelings are just biological reactions in my brain and have no higher purpose, so what? They are meaningful to me. Most, including theists, agree that dogs have no higher purpose and yet they obviously value life and emotional attachment. I don't see why we have to be any different.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:48 am to Grievous Angel
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Do we exist just to procreate so that our offspring can live equally meaningless procreating lives?
That's what I believe, but then again even that is meaningless in a universe with no ultimate goal.
I believe all matter exists exists by a chance sequence of scientific principles that inherently exist apart from time and space, and I'm ok with that.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 1:49 am
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:50 am to Roger Klarvin
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I have meaning because I believe I have meaning. If I'm wrong, I still believe I have meaning regardless.
I love my family, my friends, my hobbies, etc. If those feelings are just biological reactions in my brain and have no higher purpose, so what? They are meaningful to me. Most, including theists, agree that dogs have no higher purpose and yet they obviously value life and emotional attachment. I don't see why we have to be any different.
That's funny. Particularly the dog bit. For me, having no more "meaning" than a canine causes psychological and spiritual questions that are hard to reconcile.
For you: "Who gives a f#%@?"
I like it.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:53 am to Grievous Angel
I wont lie and say I enjoy the idea of my death and cessation of consciousness, because I enjoy life. As Mark Twain once put it though, I was dead for billions of years prior to my birth and never suffered even the slightest inconvenience from it.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 1:57 am to Roger Klarvin
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As Mark Twain once put it though, I was dead for billions of years prior to my birth and never suffered even the slightest inconvenience from it.
Gold. And I hereby promise not to trash JFF to your face henceforth.
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