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cbi8's take on LSU and "rivals"

Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted by cbi8
Nashville
Member since Mar 2012
6801 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:54 pm
Everybody knows that LSU doesn't have a "true rival"

Why? I might have figured it out.

As college football became more and more popular during the 30's and 40's, teams were starting to become more competitive.

LSU in the late 50's/early 60's had many memorable games with another elite team in Ole Miss. Thus, a first "LSU-type" rivalry was born.

Fast forward to the early 2000's (past more "rivals" in Auburn and others), and replace Ole Miss with Tennessee. The LSU/UT matchup's during that time were slugfests.

Late 2000's- Florida.

Early 2010's- Alabama.

Conclusion:
-Ole Miss is LSU's primary rival because they were their first "rival."
-Arkansas and LSU rivals? No chance.
-LSU/aTm might become TRUE rivals, (if aTm can continue to play at a high level) because of the LSU support in Texas (I believe true rivals have fan bases living amongst each other in a major city)

Hypothesis:
LSU does not have a true rival. The Bayou Bengals have always had success and when another SEC team steps up to challenge them, they become short-term "rivals"

TL;DR? Just read the hypothesis. Is there validity to this Rant?
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24334 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:54 pm to
so many words.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11653 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:55 pm to
I actually don't disagree with any of that.
Solid assessment.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:57 pm to
aTm will diminish into a yearly Trophy party with Arkansas. Inbreeding fistfight will ensue.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29552 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:58 pm to
All of that makes perfect sense to me. I expect LSU to replace UT as A&M's rival at the rate we're owning them at everything
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 9:01 pm
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:05 pm to
this is how the grind is gonna start for 2014? really?
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:05 pm to
I'll agree with most of that, cept don't forget the Tulane rivalry, that was huge...
Correct on missahippy being one of our true old rivals.
Personally, I started despisin' bammer and ole miss pretty equally in the 50's.
Posted by Whiskey Man
St Somewhere
Member since Nov 2012
910 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:06 pm to
We don't have a true rival because no other team can contend with us on a consistent basis.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84955 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:10 pm to
All of that and not one mention of Tulane or the fact that they were an original SEC member and their precipitous nosedive around the mid to late 50's?
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:12 pm to
Solid Thread. But not even a little credit for lil bro?
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:20 pm to
I always figured it was because LSU was just kind of stuck in the middle of more meaningful rivalries, in-between the heated SWC/Big 8 Midwestern rivalries (Texas/Oklahoma, for instance) to the west and the Dixieland rivalries (AU/UGA, Bama/UT, OM/MSU, etc) to the east. LSU was just kind of...there, and with a few notable exceptions, weren't reliably great enough to draw attention to themselves in place of other established rivals.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13509 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:27 pm to
Downvote...... Twice cuz ur sig is stoopid two
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68791 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:14 pm to
Historically and geographically the only rival that really makes sense for LSU is Ole Miss.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12113 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

Everybody knows that LSU doesn't have a "true rival"

Why? I might have figured it out.

As college football became more and more popular during the 30's and 40's, teams were starting to become more competitive.

LSU in the late 50's/early 60's had many memorable games with another elite team in Ole Miss. Thus, a first "LSU-type" rivalry was born.

Fast forward to the early 2000's (past more "rivals" in Auburn and others), and replace Ole Miss with Tennessee. The LSU/UT matchup's during that time were slugfests.

Late 2000's- Florida.

Early 2010's- Alabama.

Conclusion:
-Ole Miss is LSU's primary rival because they were their first "rival."
-Arkansas and LSU rivals? No chance.
-LSU/aTm might become TRUE rivals, (if aTm can continue to play at a high level) because of the LSU support in Texas (I believe true rivals have fan bases living amongst each other in a major city)

Hypothesis:
LSU does not have a true rival. The Bayou Bengals have always had success and when another SEC team steps up to challenge them, they become short-term "rivals"

TL;DR? Just read the hypothesis. Is there validity to this Rant?



Good assessment. I know its old, but you forgot to mention Tulane. At one time that was a rivalry, and as you point it it was fan bases living in close proximity and among each other.

And then that rivalry went poof
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 10:26 pm
Posted by TIGER FAN 72
Member since Jun 2009
716 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:22 pm to
I award you zero points and may god have mercy on your soul.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

-LSU/aTm might become TRUE rivals,

I think we already are but in time this game may separate from the others. Last game of the season, annual, close proximity, overlapping recruiting areas (maybe most important), already a very long history (there were 50 OOC games before A&M joined) which is quite a bit.


We could ask RogerKlarvin but I had him assassinated.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9617 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 12:15 am to
quote:

Ole Miss is LSU's primary rival because they were their first "rival."

Really the only thing I disagree with. Tulane was our first rival. But that died long ago.
I do think the Shelties can become a good rivalry with us. Especially if they continue to not play UTx.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:32 am to
We don't have a rival for a few reasons

1. No other instate power. Tulane sucks. They were and are our rival, but since they can't fill a high school stadium we don't play them anymore.

2. Our nearby out of state teams either have no history with us or have their own rival to worry about. Ole Miss has MSU. Texas A&M has Texas (although they seem to have abandoned that one)
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12323 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:02 am to
Brilliant hypothesis with absolutely no basis in reality whatsoever.
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