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re: Intelligent Design Vs. Evolution
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:55 pm to beejon
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:55 pm to beejon
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Do you think that current Darwinist thought is inherently atheistic?
Its only "inherently atheistic" to the biblical literalist young earthers who are offended by it. Many religions and denominations of Christianity including the Catholic and Methodist churches accept evolution by natural selection.
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:57 pm to beejon
What difference does that make? No aspect of science is inherently superstitious
Posted on 4/14/14 at 12:58 pm to TeLeFaWx
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So you're stupid
I was simply quoting an evolutionary bioligist...I guess that means shes stupid....or maybe its just you
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:06 pm to mattloc
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I was simply quoting an evolutionary bioligist...I guess that means shes stupid....or maybe its just you
You don't believe in evolution. Why would you quote an evolutionary biologist?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:06 pm to beejon
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Do you think that current Darwinist thought is inherently atheistic?
No more so than gravity.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:07 pm to beejon
And why are you ignoring me?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:11 pm to mattloc
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I was simply quoting an evolutionary bioligist...I guess that means shes stupid....or maybe its just you
The bottom line is that the great majority accept and employ evolution into their knowledge about life. You risk being left behind if you reject evolution and other science.
That is, of course, your choice and there isn't the first scientist who would want you to be forced to accept it. You can live in the estuaries or move into the mainstream of life where evolution is an accepted part of the science that enlightens us all.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:16 pm to mattloc
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So you're stupid
And this is an perfect example of why I don't interact with the guy.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:22 pm to beejon
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And this is an perfect example of why I don't interact with the guy.
Because I hurt your feelings? Or the fact that I am exposing your false dichotomy, and it turn showing how stupid your argument is, and that makes you mad. You know that even beginning to talk about it would completely destroy your logic, so you don't even begin the walk because you know where it leads. You're like a little kid that got caught in a lie by his parents.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:22 pm to beejon
I'm past hoping these two will believe in evolution, I just want beejon to stop believing evolution has anything to do with atheism to and stop saying Darwinist atheistic theory.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:29 pm to NATidefan
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:29 pm to emcee422
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Its only "inherently atheistic" to the biblical literalist young earthers who are offended by it. Many religions and denominations of Christianity including the Catholic and Methodist churches accept evolution by natural selection.
This is a favorite evasive half truth of atheistic Darwinists. Forget the bible, forget Genesis, the point is that the complexity and variety of creation is the result or random, meaningless, undirected events or it's not. The atheist viewpoint is that the complexity and variety of creation is random, meaningless and undirected. The theist viewpoint is that the complexity and variety of creation isn't random, meaningless and undirected.
To claim that the Methodist and Catholic churches accept evolution as a random, meaningless and undirected at some level isn't being truthful.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:31 pm to NATidefan
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I'm past hoping these two will believe in evolution, I just want them to stop believing evolution has anything to do with atheism to and stop saying Darwinist atheistic theory.
If you're expecting me to believe that the complexity and variety of creation is solely by random, meaningless and undirected mechanisms, that's not going to happen. To accept that viewpoint, one would have to be an atheist, which I'm not.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:38 pm to beejon
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Darwinism is pseudo science. Using the scientific method, there's no support for the complexity and variety of life to arise from the Darwinist model.
How so?
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There's absolutely no evidence or proof, as is demanded by those against a theistic model, that random events, accidents, hit and miss, produced more and more complex, very very complex life forms, with tremendous variety.
There's actually a lot of evidence.
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The Darwinist model which promotes the guesses and suppositions will not allow any view but an atheistic view, i.e., the mechanics underlying the creation of new and complex life is entirely by naturalistic means.
It doesn't support one, but not because it doesn't "allow" one. Once there's evidence for something other than "an atheistic view" then it will be supported.
Everything else you say just shows that you don't understand evolution or the scientific method which supports it.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:38 pm to mattloc
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While I agree with this, It does not jibe with the tenor of the conversation in this thread, which has been largley derogatory toward those who have failed to wholeheartedly endorse Darwinism
I think you're misinterpreting the conversation.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:41 pm to beejon
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The resultant life form has no purpose other than to survive and reproduce.
That's atheistic Darwinist philosophy in a nutshell.
Nope. That's the philosophy that you want it to be.
What if I said "the Christian philosophy is simply to do good things to avoid eternal torture, that ultimately life's purpose is to avoid punishment, pain, and suffering." You'd take umbrage to that, no?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:43 pm to DCRebel
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Nope. That's the philosophy that you want it to be.
What is the purpose of life other than to survive and reproduce in the atheistic Darwinist view?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:51 pm to beejon
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What is the purpose of life other than to survive and reproduce in the atheistic Darwinist view?
The purpose of life, as I see it, is to live it however you want to live it so long as you're kind and respectful to your fellow man. In that sense, I believe that people should make their lives whatever they want them to be and enjoy their time as best as they can.
But that's just me.
EDIT: Can you conceive of the fact that there IS no life philosophy inherent in evolution? Because I honestly don't think there is.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:52 pm to beejon
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:56 pm to beejon
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If you're expecting me to believe that the complexity and variety of creation is solely by random, meaningless and undirected mechanisms, that's not going to happen. To accept that viewpoint, one would have to be an atheist, which I'm not.
What if God guided evolution by changing the environment..? it would no longer be random, meaningless, undirected mechanisms as you like to put it.
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