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re: Peyton vs. Eli "in the clutch"
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:27 am to Rebellious
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:27 am to Rebellious
Except when he fell down. God damn you're not very bright.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:27 am to Rebellious
did peyton fall last night?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:33 am to genro
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Peyton is lacking...Brees, etc are not.
Come on, Peyton didn't look any worse than Brees did against the same team.
As a matter of fact, I kept thinking how similar last night's game was to the two Saints v Seahawks games.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:40 am to genro
Bingo.
Peyton has choked over and over and over again in the post-season, when championships are on the line.
The reputation he has for doing so did not just arise out of nowhere.
The discrepancy between his regular season performances and his post-seson performances is stunning.
Yeah, he won one Super Bowl, but for a quarterback of his stature, that is not very impressive, all other things considered.
Peyton has choked over and over and over again in the post-season, when championships are on the line.
The reputation he has for doing so did not just arise out of nowhere.
The discrepancy between his regular season performances and his post-seson performances is stunning.
Yeah, he won one Super Bowl, but for a quarterback of his stature, that is not very impressive, all other things considered.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:44 am to Rebellious
Marino and Jim Kelly are both incredible quarterbacks and they have zero SBs. Using that measurable Trent Dilfer is more clutch than either of them. This argument is stupid.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:51 am to DMagic
Bad weather helped the colts win the super bowl over the bears.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:56 am to jb4
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Rex Grossman helped the colts win the super bowl over the bears.
FIFY
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:57 am to jb4
It didn't help anybody. I was there in Miami and if wasn't the SB I would've left. Horrible weather.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:58 am to ibontherun
At the end of the day is just boils down to Eli being a winner and Peyton not. I'd rather have 10 on my team than 18.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:10 am to Rebellious
I think it's cute that Ole Miss fans try to argue that they have a claim to the better Manning. Reminds you of their position in the SEC.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:11 am to DMagic
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lol at you I said it first
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:16 am to Rebellious
Eli Manning's career 4th quarter QB rating is 81.8, which ranks him 18th among current NFL QBs who have played at least one full season (16 starts). It ranks below such greats as Kyle Orton, Rex Grossman and Alex Smith.
The myth that Eli is especially "clutch" is just that, a myth. Only three current NFL starters have more career 4th quarter INTs, and all three have been playing longer. Eli also has the most INTs returned for TDs since 2005.
The myth that Eli is especially "clutch" is just that, a myth. Only three current NFL starters have more career 4th quarter INTs, and all three have been playing longer. Eli also has the most INTs returned for TDs since 2005.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:18 am to genro
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Peyton is the greatest technical quarterback of all time. But when the pressure mounts in the postseason, he usually crumbles. That's the way it is.
You're an idiot. Peyton didnt crumble last night, his team did. Should he have been out there to make a tackle on the kickoff return? Did he play his best game, no, but he also had no O line. I guess there was no pressure in the AFC championship game vs New England right?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:19 am to cas4t
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I think what was lacking was Offensive line pass blocking
This
The "so and so is more clutch than so and so" argument is a watered down version of sports discussion not fit for fans who actually understand the game on a deep level. Saying a guy is more clutch than another guy is code for "I don't really understand what I'm talking about but I heard it on ESPN".
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:20 am to Jorts R Us
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I think it's cute that Ole Miss fans try to argue that they have a claim to the better Manning. Reminds you of their position in the SEC.
Well, one thing is for certain. They both will be Hall of Famers, whereas Tim Tebow will be forgotten...although we Ole Miss fans will always remember Tebow's own "choke job" against us
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:22 am to Rebellious
Eli isn't a guaranteed HOFer right now. Slow you're roll
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:23 am to Roger Klarvin
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Eli Manning's career 4th quarter QB rating is 81.8, which ranks him 18th among current NFL QBs who have played at least one full season (16 starts). It ranks below such greats as Kyle Orton, Rex Grossman and Alex Smith
Not really the point. The point is how Eli performs in the post-season vs. how Peyton performs in the off-season.
And anybody who is paying attention can see the difference.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:25 am to Rebellious
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Well, one thing is for certain. They both will be Hall of Famers, whereas Tim Tebow will be forgotten...although we Ole Miss fans will always remember Tebow's own "choke job" against us
We'll never forget that "choke job" either. It was followed by a promise and a national championship. You can google what the tropy looks like since you are more likely to see Bigfoot in Oxford.
When Eli is in Canton, you can post that on your resume since it will mean so much to you personally.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 11:25 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:Relying purely on stats and numbers, and not counting the intangibles of what makes a great player great, is for nerds who never played the game
The "so and so is more clutch than so and so" argument is a watered down version of sports discussion not fit for fans who actually understand the game on a deep level. Saying a guy is more clutch than another guy is code for "I don't really understand what I'm talking about but I heard it on ESPN".
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