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Is Penn State on the hook for Vandy's upgrades?

Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:05 am
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:05 am
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But the way the contract is written the turf on the football field that was put down two years ago and the new 31 million dollar indoor practice facility is tied to Coach Franklin and his contract. And if he leaves whichever school wants our coach has to pay off the upgrades that Franklin asked for and received.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:06 am to
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Vandy

smart bastards
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:07 am to
for real.
Posted by bamabenny
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:09 am to
holy shite. the smart guys strike again
Posted by Ray Penpillage
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:09 am to
Seems so outrageous it wouldn't hold up in court.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:11 am to
Penn State feels comfortable enough with it that they're letting it leak like crazy that Franklin's their man. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a way for them to get out of it though.
Posted by The Nino
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 12:11 am to
That's pretty damn clever if the contract is worded like that.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:04 am to
Since Vanderbilt is a private school and doesn't have to release the terms of a contract, I'm not sure how the terms are actually written up. However, what I'd heard was it was a percentage of the upgrades, most likely one which decreases over time. However, even at 10%, that's essentially a 3.1 million dollar buyout clause...without having a buyout clause. That part would likely help it hold up in court. I'm not a lawyer, but buyout clauses are a way OUT of a contract. The clause requiring his destination school being within the framework of the contract would probably make it stand up in court even if it was something like 50% (so a 15.5 million dollar payout to Vanderbilt). Again, not a lawyer or law student, so my thoughts and analysis probably aren't perfect.

But when your AD is a reknowned tax and sports law professor, things like a coach's contract are going to be very well done. David Williams earns my respect every day...except for when I realize he won't fire Stallings then he loses it for about 15 minutes.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:10 am to
And this is why you don't become Vandy's Head Coach. Those smart bastards will find a way to keep you around forever if you're successful.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:13 am to
If Franklin signed a contract like that then he and his agent would be two of the biggest idiots on the planet. A standard buy out clause is much more likely but if he was that dumb and PSU dumb enough to pay then
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:14 am to
I had thought about this situation of having to pay for upgrades before PSU made the offer, but it hadn't crossed my mind since then. Maybe this is the hold up until the meeting Saturday morning since that will be a significant cash payment to make for a coach. It's certainly not beyond PSU, but fact it is likely a multimillion lump sum probably requires a certain level of authorization from the university.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:27 am to
Wasn't that training facility multi-sport? I remember the Tennessean had an article on it and their freaking autoplay blasted me with a video. The opening had multiple coaches not just FB. Assuming this rumor is true, I would argue that a shared facility across all sports can't be tied to one sport since the facility itself is not tied to one sport -- best they could do is demand football's portion of the expense.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:33 am to
The indoor facility was a project Franklin shoved along. He had to concede it being multisport to get the funding. It's his toy that he has to let others play with, but that fact could lower the costs slightly for PSU.

As for Franklin and his agent being dumb, both knew any program he'd want to leave for would be willing to pay up to get him. Almost every coach has a buyout clause. His is just fancily written.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 1:46 am to
This seems like bad press for trying to find a replacement.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:38 am to
The author cites no source. The author doesn't even give his name. Franklin's contract with Vandy isn't public record, since Vandy is a private institution. Until I see a credible source, I'm calling bullshite on this whole story. But if true it's pretty funny, so I'll be happy to eat crow if it proves to be true.
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 5:38 am
Posted by Athanatos
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:54 am to
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Assuming this rumor is true, I would argue that a shared facility across all sports can't be tied to one sport since the facility itself is not tied to one sport -- best they could do is demand football's portion of the expense.


Based on what law? It's a contract. They can agree to whatever they want.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 6:11 am to
This is likely the holdup as PSU BOT decides if this buyout is worth it. Either way, he's gone as VCDW is playing hardball on this.
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 6:37 am
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 6:49 am to
Yeah, VCDW won't fire him and lose the buyout. I just wish I knew what the total damage on this is.
Posted by TeamCornbread
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 7:07 am to
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It's certainly not beyond PSU, but fact it is likely a multimillion lump sum probably requires a certain level of authorization from the university.


Penn state football as a market had taken a huge hit in the last two years. It's not rolling in money as it once once. I'm pretty sure a lot of the payouts to victims came from the athletic budget or it sure the frick should have. They should have also attacked the alumni association for funds to pay for damages.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 7:11 am to
Great leverage tool by both parties
Franklin asked for a commitment and Vandy did the same. This holding up in court could be a problem, but this contract clause will old serious weight in negotiations.
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