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re: Why are most crimes committed by minorities?
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:34 pm to deltaland
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:34 pm to deltaland
I asked you the question and you responded in another thread. You don't think mothers should work, and last I checked those are women.
In regards to the Jim Crow laws, other posts by you about the way of life in the delta make me think that.
In regards to the Jim Crow laws, other posts by you about the way of life in the delta make me think that.
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:37 pm to heartbreakTiger
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she is the grand wizard of racism
ISWYDT
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:38 pm to Carolina Tide
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So you're saying that if you take a kid who's around 5 or 6, and put in some of the nicest neighborhoods and the best schools, that he'd still grow up to become a criminal?
Link to where I said that?
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:40 pm to deltaland
Because many minorities are poor
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:43 pm to heartbreakTiger
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Im pretty sure my mom still has mace on her key chain from that whole time period.
I still carry my .357 in my vehicle and/or purse.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:48 pm to Arkla Missy
cough, cough..
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:48 pm to UMTigerRebel
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You don't think mothers should work, and last I checked those are women.
Clarification: I think at least one parent, usually the woman because most of the time the man has the higher paying job, should stay at home during a child's infant years, because it is irresponsible to let someone you barely know at a daycare raise your child. That's a personal opinion, it's not bigoted. Many people think the same..I'm not a "a woman belongs only in the kitchen" type of person.
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In regards to the Jim Crow laws, other posts by you about the way of life in the delta make me think that.
I don't support oppressing people. I'm very pro liberty in my political views, and I've even stated things in this thread like we need to decriminalize many drugs, to show that.
I was trying to have a discussion on why I think some of the problems exist in the black community..I may be wrong on those, and that could be because honestly the MS Delta is not comparable to the entire country. I was giving my viewpoint from personal encounters and observations of the black people in the area that I live...which has a high drug problem and high robbery/burglary problem. Hell just today one of my tractors out on the fish ponds had both batteries stolen..cables cut last night.
I'm not an expert on minority issues, just trying to have a discussion. Nowhere have I said anything hateful, and I can promise I harbor no hate toward anyone because of skin color. I just simply don't put up with low down criminals, white, black, brown, whatever.
And some of the drug/burglaries have gotten so bad here, that is requires you take extra steps to prevent it/protect yourself. It may seem crazy to outsiders that I have to pull a shotgun out at a gas station in Moorhead to run a bum off..but if you don't next thing you know he'll have a knife to you demanding your wallet.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:54 pm to Ole Geauxt
Suck on a Hall's lozenge for that cough, OG.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:57 pm to Vols&Shaft83
When I said:
you quoted me and responded with a casty.
LINK
What part didn't you agree with exactly?
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It is more of a poverty/socioeconomic issue than it is race. If you had place any common black criminal and had taken him out of the ghetto when he was young, I guarentee you that he would be a productive member of society.
you quoted me and responded with a casty.
LINK
What part didn't you agree with exactly?
Posted on 12/18/13 at 6:58 pm to deltaland
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They have the same access to education and opportunity as white people in this country nowadays.
No they don't.
Their opportunities are certainly better than they used to be, but they're nowhere close to equal, particularly with regards to education.
Hell, compare Indianola Gentry HS to Madison Central HS or Tupelo HS, and you'll see what I mean.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:00 pm to Arkla Missy
cough,cough, cough
I can't get rid of it.
it seems to be getting worse..
suckin' on a lozenge ain't workin', switching to g. dickel.
I can't get rid of it.
it seems to be getting worse..
suckin' on a lozenge ain't workin', switching to g. dickel.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:04 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Your vocal support for the ACA
Where's this? I support healthcare reform, and think ACA is a small step in that direction, but I don't support it in and of itself. And I agree that ACA is poorly implemented for a lot of reasons... But that's not really to the point of this thread, is it?
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frickING COLOSSAL FAILURE,
Well, that's a bit of an overstatement. Yes, it's been poorly handled and managed but, again, I'm not sure how that relates to this thread anyway.
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your absurd position on minimum wage
You don't have to agree with it, but calling it "absurd" as if that's anything more than your opinion (Can something be factually absurd? Is absurdity not in the eye of the beholder?) is just nonsense.
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elitist hack who doesn't give a frick about the black community, but wants everybody to think he does.
Complete non sequitur. I have no idea how you connected those dots. So supporting healthcare reform and a higher minimum wage means I don't "give a frick about" black people? I'd love to hear that rationale.
You're a sensationalist joke who can't at all fathom that there are people who don't agree with you and don't think your ideas are all that novel or clever.
You're an only child, aren't you?
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You make more strawman arguments than any poster on this board, please go check that Fast Food Strike thread if you're having a selective memory lapse.
Link?
And I love how the strawmen I called you out on were completely dodged. I guess you too recognize them in this thread.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:10 pm to Ole Geauxt
Wut? No bs. 
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:19 pm to Arkla Missy
wut?
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:20 pm to DCRebel
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Hell, compare Indianola Gentry HS to Madison Central HS or Tupelo HS, and you'll see what I mean.
I see your point, but why is it that one is worse than the others? It isn't due to lack of funding, that's for sure.
These poorer neighborhoods don't seem to value education as much, therefore they don't put as much into their local school being successful. The Gov't funds sent to improve the school never see the light of day..usually due to corrupt Supervisors lining their pockets.
I used to date a Teach for America girl who taught at an all black public school in the delta...she said they didn't even have money for basic supplies. She had to buy paper herself to be able to copy her tests for the kids to take. She said the school constantly received money for upgrades..but no upgrades ever happened. The people in charge simply embezzled it.
So with these conditions..no good teacher wants to teach at these schools, so education quality goes down..the buildings are falling apart, it isn't enjoyable to sit in there all day so kids hate school rather than enjoying it. It's a plethora of problems that is solely on the locals in that district for not standing up and demanding improvements, and the State officials in charge of hiring supervisors and headmasters not fixing the corruption.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:26 pm to Carolina Tide
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What part didn't you agree with exactly?
The the " any common black criminal" and the"Guarantee" part. Growing up in a poor neighborhood doesn't make someone a criminal.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:28 pm to deltaland
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I see your point, but why is it that one is worse than the others? It isn't due to lack of funding, that's for sure.
Exactly. Some school districts have a lot more money than others, therefore they can attract better teachers and offer more opportunities for their students. So saying that everybody has the same opportunity isn't really true. Some people, by virtue of simply living in a better school district, have better opportunities.
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These poorer neighborhoods don't seem to value education as much, therefore they don't put as much into their local school being successful
Well, being that they're poor, they also can't put as much into it (via property taxes). Even if they valued it more than diamonds, they wouldn't have the money to pay anyway. They're poor, remember.
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The Gov't funds sent to improve the school never see the light of day..usually due to corrupt Supervisors lining their pockets.
I agree. Mississippi's public education bureaucracy is ATROCIOUS. It needs major reform... or a shitload of folks need to be fired. But you nor I can do shite about that.
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So with these conditions..no good teacher wants to teach at these schools, so education quality goes down..the buildings are falling apart, it isn't enjoyable to sit in there all day so kids hate school rather than enjoying it. It's a plethora of problems that is solely on the locals in that district for not standing up and demanding improvements, and the State officials in charge of hiring supervisors and headmasters not fixing the corruption.
The latter part is where you and I will disagree. I think there are more structural and systemic problems that make it to where it's not "solely on the locals in that district," even though your point isn't lost on me. It, like most problems, is complicated.
But my initial point that all public schools are not created equally remains, and you'd agree, just for (slightly) different reasons.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:35 pm to deltaland
One of my black friend's mother got a part time job, and he was telling us how he told his mama she needed to quit her job cause it made her rent go from $50 to $75 a month. He was dead serious too. He's a really nice guy, but this is how he and a bunch of his other friends think. They have never known anything but handouts, and that is how they plan on living their entire lives. 
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:09 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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The the " any common black criminal" and the"Guarantee" part. Growing up in a poor neighborhood doesn't make someone a criminal.
But not having the oppertunites to make their life better will make someone a criminal. If they would've grown up in a decent home, and went to a good school where the teacher actually gave a frick about them, then maybe they would have actually looked forward to their future, and actually think about having a better life.
Ask any prison inmate (who isn't a rapist or a psychopath) what would've made them not commit a crime, and most would say that if someone actually cared for them when they were younger, then they would not be on the path they are on now.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:37 pm to DCRebel
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Some school districts have a lot more money than others, therefore they can attract better teachers and offer more opportunities for their students. So saying that everybody has the same opportunity isn't really true. Some people, by virtue of simply living in a better school district, have better opportunities.
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Well, being that they're poor, they also can't put as much into it (via property taxes). Even if they valued it more than diamonds, they wouldn't have the money to pay anyway.
The problem with these statements is schools aren't funded by the districts, correct? Don't they receive mostly State funds to operate?
I may be wrong, but I thought all public schools were funded by the state government. What I meant by "locals putting into it" was not so much money, but effort. Parents being more involved in their childs education, going to conferences, actually being with the teacher to push the child to excel, rather than blaming the teacher for the child's failures. These are problems that seemed common that my ex GF (TFA girl) ran into.
Maybe we should let local areas fund schools that are in districts with an average income above the poverty level (via local taxes), and poor districts be funded by the State so we can concentrate more funds to improve education in poor areas...along with a crackdown on corrupt individuals to make sure the money benefits the kids.
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