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re: Why are most crimes committed by minorities?

Posted on 12/19/13 at 5:57 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 5:57 pm to
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Slope, is everything he said wrong?


No, Slope just likes to be a elitist liberal douchebag, condescending people like he knows everything but providing no real insight or possible solutions, because he knows nothing but insults.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91247 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:04 pm to
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He thought that Madison Central and Byhalia High School are basically the same schools with the same amount of money.


Link to where I said this?

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Motherfricking duh. Most people realized this at 11.


Oh look, elitist douchebag comment. Nice contribution to the thread

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his doesn't work either. You can't be like "oh well you live in an impoverished area and 50% of your classmates never learned to read so whatever frick you sorry you can't have books or teachers that get paid reasonably.


Well basing the funding off property taxes won't work..because in poor areas nobody owns nice property, and taxes are usually low because of it. So poor areas are guaranteed shitty schools.

The above system I stated takes the area's money out of the equation, and focuses simply on results. Just because people are poor doesn't mean they are incapable of doing well in school. The schools teach them to read, write, etc. My system wouldn't deny funding if they failed, there would be a base funding allowed for each school based on its size and enrollment..then additional funding incentives for that school performing up to standards. If it did not perform to standards, then faculty changes would be made by the State to try and improve it's performance.

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This has been tried. It leads to cheating and corruption.


Not based from the schools tests given, obviously the school just could give good grades for money. It would be based on a standardized statewide test covering all basic material, and overall test averages would determine how well each school is doing in teaching the basic, necessary material children need to graduate and perform in college.
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
20346 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:27 pm to
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They have the same access to education and opportunity as white people in this country nowadays.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91247 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 6:38 pm to
I didn't say the schools were the same. I said they have the same opportunity. Nothing keeps them from getting a free public education. If they make straight A's, even at a shitty school, they can get numerous different academic scholarships, and minority scholarships, to attend college. The opportunity for success is there
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29200 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:46 pm to
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I said they have the same opportunity.


That's just ridiculously stupid.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
49000 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:49 pm to
Are you able to add to the discussion without just throwing out sweeping generalities?

At least delta is attempting to have a discussion amidst the incessant name-calling and bigotry of some of the more sophisticated parties in this thread.
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
20346 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:49 pm to
He's right though.

It is ridiculously stupid.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
49000 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:52 pm to
Slopopotamus
Posted by weedGOKU666
THE 'COLA
Member since Jan 2013
3737 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:14 pm to
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So in a sense, there's still segregation going on in this county.


That's basically the entire purpose of the private school system in Mississippi. At least, in Lincoln county pretty much the only reason parents sent their kids to Brookhaven Academy was so that they didn't have to go to school with black kids. That had to have been the only reason, because it's to my understanding that the education provided there is inferior to the public system in Brookhaven.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
49000 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:30 pm to
The public schools where I live are pathetic and only the brightest and best children are able to overcome them and become successful. I've always held that education begins and ends at home though.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:30 pm to
My child's school was founded in 1965. That should tell you something.
Posted by weedGOKU666
THE 'COLA
Member since Jan 2013
3737 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:34 pm to
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The public schools where I live are pathetic and only the brightest and best children are able to overcome them and become successful. I've always held that education begins and ends at home though.


I graduated from BHS in 09, so it may have gotten worse since I've been there. At the time, though, it was actually pretty good. Most of the teachers in the math/science department legitimately cared about our education. This might just be exclusive to Lincoln county, though. Private schools may very well be the better option elsewhere.

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My child's school was founded in 1965. That should tell you something.


I think that's pretty much the same all over the state.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:38 pm to
They do not have the same opportunity though. My mother, a retired teacher from a good public school system, subs in the local school system. She gets calls from multiple schools every day, but usually goes to one or two schools regularly.

Frequently she is left with no lesson plans, and has to wing it. She may be left a note to make sure to collect the pencils from the students after each class (they don't have their own), and the kids are toting backpacks that have been donated. She was once asked by a student if she would be their real teacher because she actually taught them things.

The kids are poor, their parents don't really care too much about their education, or maybe they do, but in the students' minds it's not perceived to be cool to be smart amongst their peers. Also, some of the teachers are just there for a paycheck. Maybe those teachers started out with good intentions, but got disenfranchised after a while, and the better teachers are going to go to a private school, or look for a position in the good schools a county over.

It's a grim situation, and there's really not an easy solution for it. I agree that it starts at home, but there are some apathetic teachers too, and peer pressure plays a large role.

She once told a child "You are a leader. They will follow your example. You can choose to be a bad leader, or you can choose to be a good leader." The kid was great the rest of the day.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29135 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:46 pm to
72 hours and the racist smell has faded to a nice public school snobbery whiff.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 9:51 pm
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
49000 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:48 pm to
That's sad. I've always said that if we closed all the private schools and put that time and those resources into our public schools here, they'd be top notch.
Posted by aslavey
Chicago
Member since Nov 2013
1380 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:53 pm to
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I've always said that if we closed all the private schools and put that time and those resources into our public schools here, they'd be top notch.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:54 pm to
I agree, and now it comes back to property taxes. No one here who makes decent money wants to raise property taxes to fund the school system because the ones who would be affected the most send their kids to private schools, so why would it matter to them?
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 9:57 pm to
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72 hours and the racist smell has faded to a nice public school snobbery whiff.

I'm a product of a public school system, but if the public school system is underperforming, I'm not going to send my child there.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
3978 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:34 pm to
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72 hours and the racist smell has faded to a nice public school snobbery whiff. 


:northmississippiproblems:
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19458 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:36 pm to
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Overall test score incentives

This hasn't worked or the shitty schools wouldn't still be shitty
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